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From perlman@turing.acm.org Fri Aug 1 00:52:43 2008 -0400 Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 00:52:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: =?big5?B?s6+3c7PV?= <97154@wanfang.gov.tw> Subject: Re: |STAT request In-Reply-To: <000701c8f380$3a3e6430$8a0c410a@AACSB> Message-ID: References: <000701c8f380$3a3e6430$8a0c410a@AACSB> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1463807999-470023610-1217566362=:27501" Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1 ---1463807999-470023610-1217566362=:27501 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Thank you for your interest in |STAT data manipulation and analysis software. UNIX |STAT for is now (only) available via Web browsers at a secret location. http://www.hcibib.org/stat/xyzzy/ To obtain UNIX |STAT files, please follow the instructions at: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/#access There are installation notes (e.g., for Mac OS X and Linux) at: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/installation.txt DOS |STAT executables and documentation are available as a WinZip file: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/DOS-STAT.ZIP HTML documentation is available from the |STAT home page: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/ On Fri, 1 Aug 2008, ³¯·s³Õ wrote: > Good Day: > I AGREE TO ADHERE TO THE CONDITIONS OF USING |STAT. > I AGREE NOT TO SHARE THE |STAT LOCATION WITH OTHERS. > > ~Chen Shin Bo,Taiwan ---1463807999-470023610-1217566362=:27501-- From perlman@turing.acm.org Sat Aug 2 19:41:51 2008 -0400 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 19:41:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: Irina Shamaeva Subject: Re: Java UI Architect In-Reply-To: <0a4301c8f4ec$3b23a4b0$6401a8c0@PC312912324322> Message-ID: References: <0a4301c8f4ec$3b23a4b0$6401a8c0@PC312912324322> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2 Sorry, but no. On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, Irina Shamaeva wrote: > Would you be interested, or would you know somebody who would be interested > in discussing a Senior UI/Java/Swing/"thick client" Architect job opening at > an established and growing company in Mountain View, CA, with a team of > strong, senior developers? > > > > Thanks, > > Irina Shamaeva, > > Partner, Brain Gain Recruiting > > Office (510) 233-9493 > > Cell (415) 699-9841 > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/irinashamaeva > > > > From perlman@turing.acm.org Wed Aug 6 13:58:11 2008 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 13:58:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: "L-Soft list server at ACM (1.8d)" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3 rev wigs-l From perlman@turing.acm.org Wed Aug 6 14:00:50 2008 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:00:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: ACM Listserv Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4 rev wigs-l From perlman@turing.acm.org Wed Aug 6 14:09:16 2008 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:09:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: "ACM LISTSERV Server (15.0)" Subject: Re: File: "WIGS-L LIST" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5 add wigs-l dickfairley@gmail.com Dick Fairley From perlman@turing.acm.org Wed Aug 6 14:12:04 2008 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:12:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: Bo Sanden cc: Dick Fairley Subject: Re: WIGS-L list In-Reply-To: <4899E3CC.5020904@acm.org> Message-ID: References: <4899E3CC.5020904@acm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1463807999-24973149-1218046323=:16526" Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6 ---1463807999-24973149-1218046323=:16526 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Hi Bo and Dick, I am unsure of the procedure, too, but I think I add Dick to the list. I've been thinking that WIGS-L should be replaced by Facebook, or Yahoo Groups, or... We could have a virtual reunion. Best, Gary On Wed, 6 Aug 2008, Bo Sanden wrote: > Gary, > > I'm unsure what the procedure is: Can you please add Dick Fairley to the WIGS list? > > Bo > > > > > > -- > -- > > Dr. Bo I. Sandén, Ph.D. > Professor of Computer Science > Interim Dean of Doctoral Computer Science > > Colorado Technical University > 4435 N. Chestnut Street > Colorado Springs, CO 80907-3896 > U.S.A. > >   > > bsanden@acm.org (preferred) > > (719) 590-6733 (voice mail only) > > (719) 531-9045 > > http://member.acm.org/~bsanden > > ---1463807999-24973149-1218046323=:16526-- From perlman@turing.acm.org Sat Aug 9 10:29:00 2008 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 10:29:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: Gary perlman Subject: bug in hot authors with hyphens Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7 http://www.hcibib.org/bs.cgi?query=Dykstra-Erickson_E*&searchtype=topauthor&highlight=checked From perlman@turing.acm.org Sat Aug 9 12:24:09 2008 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 12:24:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: "ACM LISTSERV Server (15.0)" Subject: Re: WIGS-L: Daily error monitoring report In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8 rev wigs-l From perlman@turing.acm.org Sun Aug 10 12:56:40 2008 -0400 Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 12:56:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: James R Leonard Subject: Re: Herbie's Recurring Themes In-Reply-To: <53C6350C-39DE-4886-BF95-E8B11685AB17@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <53C6350C-39DE-4886-BF95-E8B11685AB17@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9 Thanks, Jim, Okay to borrow images. Just remember to return them when done, or I'll bop you with this here loollipop. Anything that promotes Popneckerism okay with me. Having fun on learning2share. Need more time. Wait for rainy day. Gary On Sat, 9 Aug 2008, James R Leonard wrote: > Hi Gary - - > > Just a note to say thanks for sending me the link to your amazing Herbie site > last week. > > I added a link to the 'Herbie Web Round-Up' at my 'I'm Learning To Share' > blog, but just to make extra sure that more people can find it, I also just > mentioned it the latest of my weekly 'Reasons To Be Cheerful' posts as well. > > http://learning2share.blogspot.com/2008/08/reasons-to-be-cheerful-week-of-080808.html > > Wanted to make sure you knew about it, especially as I - - uh, borrowed - - a > few of your images to help catch folks' attention. Hope that's okay. > > All the best to you, keep up the good work! > > Jim > (aka 'the in crowd') > > http://learning2share.blogspot.com/ From perlman@turing.acm.org Sun Aug 10 14:50:57 2008 -0400 Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 14:50:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: wigs-l@listserv.acm.org Subject: Wang Institute Listserv, Virtual Reunion, 20 Years, yadda yadda yadda Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 10 It seems like yesterday that we heard that the Wang Institute was closing, but it was over 21 years ago,a nd it's about 20 years ago that the final class graduated. Since that time, there have been occassional get-togethers and infrequent postings to this list. With Bo Sanden's recent post, I noted that there are 120 people on the list, but that delivery failed for 75 of them. Clearly, we are losing touch at a time when it would be fun to look back, and more fun to catch up. Around the time Caroline and I moved our family back to Montreal so she could join the faculty at McGill, my high school class was getting ready to have a 30th reunion. (Yes, I'm that old. Yes, I'm still with Caroline. Yes, we have kids -- Mark is 15 and George is 11. And yes, I'm originally from Montreal. So, you see, it's fun to catch up.) We used Yahoo Groups as our social software, and managed to post almost 5000 messages, 2500 in the month leading up to the reunion, which was thicker in memories than a hazy day in Beijing. For many of us, the real reunion was in the preparation in Yahoo Groups. We shared literally thousands of pictures (including class pictures from kindergarten through high school). These pictures, and many more artifacts, were scanned and added to a website that eventually turned into a comemorative CD with about 3000 items. I think it's possible that we organize a face-to-face WIGS reunion, but I would like to propose that we have a virtual reunion, in Yahoo Groups, or Facebook, or wherever. I am open to suggestions, especially if they don't mean a lot of work for me. I've created a group on FaceBook called Wang Institute of Graduate Studies I am not sure if it is set up properly, but I set it up as a closed group. Gary Perlman, Research Scientist, oclc.org From perlman@turing.acm.org Sun Aug 10 19:47:56 2008 -0400 Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:47:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: Jim Haungs Subject: Re: Wang Institute Listserv, Virtual Reunion, 20 Years, yadda yadda yadda In-Reply-To: <6F414F64-A3C1-488D-B360-48E6638959C3@yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <6F414F64-A3C1-488D-B360-48E6638959C3@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11 Hi Jim, I think I just invited you inside Facebook, but I am not sure, but I think this will work: Just start typing "wang institute" in the search box, and the full name should appear. Gary On Sun, 10 Aug 2008, Jim Haungs wrote: > I'm kind of new to Facebook. How do you find a group? > > On Aug 10, 2008, at 11:50 AM, Gary PERLMAN wrote: > >> It seems like yesterday that we heard that the Wang Institute was closing, >> but it was over 21 years ago,a nd it's about 20 years ago that the final >> class graduated. >> >> Since that time, there have been occassional get-togethers and infrequent >> postings to this list. With Bo Sanden's recent post, I noted that there are >> 120 people on the list, but that delivery failed for 75 of them. Clearly, >> we are losing touch at a time when it would be fun to look back, and more >> fun to catch up. >> >> Around the time Caroline and I moved our family back to Montreal so she >> could >> join the faculty at McGill, my high school class was getting ready to have >> a 30th reunion. (Yes, I'm that old. Yes, I'm still with Caroline. Yes, we >> have >> kids -- Mark is 15 and George is 11. And yes, I'm originally from Montreal. >> So, you see, it's fun to catch up.) We used Yahoo Groups as our social >> software, >> and managed to post almost 5000 messages, 2500 in the month leading up to >> the >> reunion, which was thicker in memories than a hazy day in Beijing. For many >> of >> us, the real reunion was in the preparation in Yahoo Groups. We shared >> literally >> thousands of pictures (including class pictures from kindergarten through >> high >> school). These pictures, and many more artifacts, were scanned and added to >> a website that eventually turned into a comemorative CD with about 3000 >> items. >> >> I think it's possible that we organize a face-to-face WIGS reunion, but I >> would like to propose that we have a virtual reunion, in Yahoo Groups, or >> Facebook, or wherever. I am open to suggestions, especially if they don't >> mean a lot of work for me. I've created a group on FaceBook called >> Wang Institute of Graduate Studies >> I am not sure if it is set up properly, but I set it up as a closed group. >> >> Gary Perlman, Research Scientist, oclc.org >> > From perlman@turing.acm.org Sun Aug 10 20:06:16 2008 -0400 Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:06:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: Jim Haungs Subject: Re: Wang Institute Listserv, Virtual Reunion, 20 Years, yadda yadda yadda In-Reply-To: <750095F7-DF4D-49C8-9A19-DCDF0C626F05@yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <6F414F64-A3C1-488D-B360-48E6638959C3@yahoo.com> <750095F7-DF4D-49C8-9A19-DCDF0C626F05@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 12 Oh, there must be some delay, like a few minutes, but I got it. I think you are IN! Gary On Sun, 10 Aug 2008, Jim Haungs wrote: > It didn't show me as invited, so I hit the Request to Join link. See if you > get notified. > > On Aug 10, 2008, at 4:47 PM, Gary PERLMAN wrote: > >> Hi Jim, >> >> I think I just invited you inside Facebook, but I am not sure, >> but I think this will work: >> >> Just start typing "wang institute" in the search box, and >> the full name should appear. >> >> Gary >> >> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008, Jim Haungs wrote: >> >>> I'm kind of new to Facebook. How do you find a group? >>> >>> On Aug 10, 2008, at 11:50 AM, Gary PERLMAN wrote: >>> >>>> It seems like yesterday that we heard that the Wang Institute was >>>> closing, >>>> but it was over 21 years ago,a nd it's about 20 years ago that the final >>>> class graduated. >>>> Since that time, there have been occassional get-togethers and infrequent >>>> postings to this list. With Bo Sanden's recent post, I noted that there >>>> are >>>> 120 people on the list, but that delivery failed for 75 of them. Clearly, >>>> we are losing touch at a time when it would be fun to look back, and more >>>> fun to catch up. >>>> Around the time Caroline and I moved our family back to Montreal so she >>>> could >>>> join the faculty at McGill, my high school class was getting ready to >>>> have >>>> a 30th reunion. (Yes, I'm that old. Yes, I'm still with Caroline. Yes, we >>>> have >>>> kids -- Mark is 15 and George is 11. And yes, I'm originally from >>>> Montreal. >>>> So, you see, it's fun to catch up.) We used Yahoo Groups as our social >>>> software, >>>> and managed to post almost 5000 messages, 2500 in the month leading up to >>>> the >>>> reunion, which was thicker in memories than a hazy day in Beijing. For >>>> many of >>>> us, the real reunion was in the preparation in Yahoo Groups. We shared >>>> literally >>>> thousands of pictures (including class pictures from kindergarten through >>>> high >>>> school). These pictures, and many more artifacts, were scanned and added >>>> to >>>> a website that eventually turned into a comemorative CD with about 3000 >>>> items. >>>> I think it's possible that we organize a face-to-face WIGS reunion, but I >>>> would like to propose that we have a virtual reunion, in Yahoo Groups, or >>>> Facebook, or wherever. I am open to suggestions, especially if they don't >>>> mean a lot of work for me. I've created a group on FaceBook called >>>> Wang Institute of Graduate Studies >>>> I am not sure if it is set up properly, but I set it up as a closed >>>> group. >>>> Gary Perlman, Research Scientist, oclc.org >>> > From perlman@turing.acm.org Mon Aug 11 14:55:06 2008 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:55:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: Dick Fairley cc: WIGS-L@listserv.acm.org Subject: Re: Wang Institute Listserv, Virtual Reunion, 20 Years, yadda yadda yadda In-Reply-To: <6c602f600808111012i1c075617s36c5f01c11fce72e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <6c602f600808111012i1c075617s36c5f01c11fce72e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 13 Hi Dick, It's great to catch up. I too look out at a mountain, towering 200 meters above sea level, from my perch halfway up. No nasty jagged rocks; just deciduous trees that turn pretty colours in the Fall. I set up a Facebook group "Wang Institute of Graduate Studies" (which narrowly beat out WangInst@csnet-relay as the name). There are places to post pictures, messages, and links to other stuff. I just started the first topic: What have you been up to for the past 20 years? There are only 5 members, but I think we can get up to 50 with little effort, and double with a little more. Then, I think we'll hit critical mass, or some other buzzword. Once you get on to Facebook, just start typing wang inst... and you should get to the group. You will need to ask to join, and I will approve, and then you can look at the goodies. More importantly, you can then ADD to the goodies. Then Facebook can harvest that information, probably to sell it back to us, or maybe hold it ransom. What, me worry? Gary On Mon, 11 Aug 2008, Dick Fairley wrote: > Hi Gary and All, > > A virtual reunion sounds like a good idea. Thanks to you and to Bo for > getting me on the WIGS mailing list. > > A brief catch-up from my end. My wife, Mary Jane, and I are living in the > mountains of Colorado (9000 ft elevation looking out on Pikes Peak). She is > University Dean for computer science and engineering at Colorado Technical > University. She oversees several degree programs for the 5 campuses and > 12,000 on-line students of CTU. Her office is in Colorado Springs (a 20 > mile commute). Bo is Interim Dean of the doctoral computer science program > at CTU. I am an adjunct faculty member at CTU. I was dean of computer > science at CTU in the 90s when Bo and Mary Jane were faculty members there. > Interesting how things change through time. > > As you may recall, I went to George Mason after WIGS closed, along with Bo > and Hassan Gomma where we set up a Masters program in software engineering > (Hassan is still at GMU). I left GMU after a couple of years and set up a > consulting and training company (SEMA - Software Engineering Management > Associates). I had a lucrative and very busy time but after too many > airplane rides and too many hotel rooms I joined Colorado Tech as dean of > computer science in 1996. > > I left CTU in 1998 and Mary Jane went with me (I don't think they were sad > to see me go but they sure hated to lose Mary Jane). We went to Oregon > where I helped set up and run the Oregon Masters of Software Engineering > program; my 5th software engineering Masters start-up as I recall. I was > also a faculty member, department chair, and associate dean at Oregon > Graduate Institute during our 7 years in Oregon. Mary Jane was a professor > of computer science at the University of Portland. In 2005 Mary Jane > received an offer she couldn't refuse from CTU. I was ready to move on so > we came back to Colorado. > > I'm teaching part-time at CTU in the Masters and Doctoral programs and being > a house husband. I've just sent off the galley proofs of a book on *Managing > and Leading Software Projects* which will be published by Wiley later this > year; I taught my first course on this topic at WIGS in 1985 when no other > faculty member wanted to teach it. I have also recently finished a > ReadyNote on risk management for the IEEE Computer Society (a monograph of > ~100 pages) and I'm about halfway through the first draft of an introductory > text on software engineering. So being "semi-retired" means I am still > working full-time but not receiving a regular pay check. > > Life is good here. Hope all is well with you. > > -- Dick > > On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Gary PERLMAN wrote: > >> It seems like yesterday that we heard that the Wang Institute was closing, >> but it was over 21 years ago,a nd it's about 20 years ago that the final >> class graduated. >> >> Since that time, there have been occassional get-togethers and infrequent >> postings to this list. With Bo Sanden's recent post, I noted that there are >> 120 people on the list, but that delivery failed for 75 of them. Clearly, >> we are losing touch at a time when it would be fun to look back, and more >> fun to catch up. >> >> Around the time Caroline and I moved our family back to Montreal so she >> could >> join the faculty at McGill, my high school class was getting ready to have >> a 30th reunion. (Yes, I'm that old. Yes, I'm still with Caroline. Yes, we >> have >> kids -- Mark is 15 and George is 11. And yes, I'm originally from Montreal. >> So, you see, it's fun to catch up.) We used Yahoo Groups as our social >> software, >> and managed to post almost 5000 messages, 2500 in the month leading up to >> the >> reunion, which was thicker in memories than a hazy day in Beijing. For many >> of >> us, the real reunion was in the preparation in Yahoo Groups. We shared >> literally >> thousands of pictures (including class pictures from kindergarten through >> high >> school). These pictures, and many more artifacts, were scanned and added to >> a website that eventually turned into a comemorative CD with about 3000 >> items. >> >> I think it's possible that we organize a face-to-face WIGS reunion, but I >> would like to propose that we have a virtual reunion, in Yahoo Groups, or >> Facebook, or wherever. I am open to suggestions, especially if they don't >> mean a lot of work for me. I've created a group on FaceBook called >> Wang Institute of Graduate Studies >> I am not sure if it is set up properly, but I set it up as a closed group. >> >> Gary Perlman, Research Scientist, oclc.org >> >> > From perlman@turing.acm.org Thu Aug 14 15:00:11 2008 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:00:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: "Mousa, Hussam" Subject: Re: |STAT link request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 14 Thank you for your interest in |STAT data manipulation and analysis software. UNIX |STAT for is now (only) available via Web browsers at a secret location. http://www.hcibib.org/stat/xyzzy/ To obtain UNIX |STAT files, please follow the instructions at: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/#access There are installation notes (e.g., for Mac OS X and Linux) at: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/installation.txt DOS |STAT executables and documentation are available as a WinZip file: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/DOS-STAT.ZIP HTML documentation is available from the |STAT home page: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/ On Wed, 13 Aug 2008, Mousa, Hussam wrote: > I AGREE TO ADHERE TO THE CONDITIONS OF USING |STAT. > > I AGREE NOT TO SHARE THE |STAT LOCATION WITH OTHERS. > > > > Thanks, > > Hussam MOusa > > > > From perlman@turing.acm.org Thu Aug 14 20:26:15 2008 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:26:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: Chad Johnson Subject: Re: |STAT request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 15 Thank you for your interest in |STAT data manipulation and analysis software. UNIX |STAT for is now (only) available via Web browsers at a secret location. http://www.hcibib.org/stat/xyzzy/ To obtain UNIX |STAT files, please follow the instructions at: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/#access There are installation notes (e.g., for Mac OS X and Linux) at: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/installation.txt DOS |STAT executables and documentation are available as a WinZip file: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/DOS-STAT.ZIP HTML documentation is available from the |STAT home page: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/ On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, Chad Johnson wrote: > I AGREE TO ADHERE TO THE CONDITIONS OF USING |STAT. > I AGREE NOT TO SHARE THE |STAT LOCATION WITH OTHERS. > From perlman@turing.acm.org Mon Aug 18 15:07:07 2008 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:07:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: Ping Hei Lam Subject: Re: Request the location for Unixstat In-Reply-To: <4fdc9cb0808181125m389e5112g5ff98a1ac4d94937@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <4fdc9cb0808181125m389e5112g5ff98a1ac4d94937@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 16 Thank you for your interest in |STAT data manipulation and analysis software. UNIX |STAT for is now (only) available via Web browsers at a secret location. http://www.hcibib.org/stat/xyzzy/ To obtain UNIX |STAT files, please follow the instructions at: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/#access There are installation notes (e.g., for Mac OS X and Linux) at: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/installation.txt DOS |STAT executables and documentation are available as a WinZip file: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/DOS-STAT.ZIP HTML documentation is available from the |STAT home page: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/ On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, Ping Hei Lam wrote: > Hi Mr. Perlman, > > I would like to request the location for Unixstat. Thank you. > > I AGREE TO ADHERE TO THE CONDITIONS OF USING |STAT. > I AGREE NOT TO SHARE THE |STAT LOCATION WITH OTHERS. > > From perlman@turing.acm.org Sat Aug 23 17:29:56 2008 -0400 Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:29:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: Dick Fairley Subject: Re: Wang Institute Listserv, Virtual Reunion, 20 Years, yadda yadda yadda In-Reply-To: <6c602f600808111012i1c075617s36c5f01c11fce72e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <6c602f600808111012i1c075617s36c5f01c11fce72e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 17 Hi Dick, Good to catch up a bit. Not to look a gift update in the mouth, I was hoping that you would 1. get onto facebook 2. join the Wang Institute group I set up 3. post your message there While there are only 10 members there now, the messages in the group are archived, so as people join up, they can catch up. And you could post pictures, ur;ls, etc. And for all I know, there might not be many more people actually getting mail via the WIGS-L list, at least judging from the list errors I get to see. Best, Gary On Mon, 11 Aug 2008, Dick Fairley wrote: > Hi Gary and All, > > A virtual reunion sounds like a good idea. Thanks to you and to Bo for > getting me on the WIGS mailing list. > > A brief catch-up from my end. My wife, Mary Jane, and I are living in the > mountains of Colorado (9000 ft elevation looking out on Pikes Peak). She is > University Dean for computer science and engineering at Colorado Technical > University. She oversees several degree programs for the 5 campuses and > 12,000 on-line students of CTU. Her office is in Colorado Springs (a 20 > mile commute). Bo is Interim Dean of the doctoral computer science program > at CTU. I am an adjunct faculty member at CTU. I was dean of computer > science at CTU in the 90s when Bo and Mary Jane were faculty members there. > Interesting how things change through time. > > As you may recall, I went to George Mason after WIGS closed, along with Bo > and Hassan Gomma where we set up a Masters program in software engineering > (Hassan is still at GMU). I left GMU after a couple of years and set up a > consulting and training company (SEMA - Software Engineering Management > Associates). I had a lucrative and very busy time but after too many > airplane rides and too many hotel rooms I joined Colorado Tech as dean of > computer science in 1996. > > I left CTU in 1998 and Mary Jane went with me (I don't think they were sad > to see me go but they sure hated to lose Mary Jane). We went to Oregon > where I helped set up and run the Oregon Masters of Software Engineering > program; my 5th software engineering Masters start-up as I recall. I was > also a faculty member, department chair, and associate dean at Oregon > Graduate Institute during our 7 years in Oregon. Mary Jane was a professor > of computer science at the University of Portland. In 2005 Mary Jane > received an offer she couldn't refuse from CTU. I was ready to move on so > we came back to Colorado. > > I'm teaching part-time at CTU in the Masters and Doctoral programs and being > a house husband. I've just sent off the galley proofs of a book on *Managing > and Leading Software Projects* which will be published by Wiley later this > year; I taught my first course on this topic at WIGS in 1985 when no other > faculty member wanted to teach it. I have also recently finished a > ReadyNote on risk management for the IEEE Computer Society (a monograph of > ~100 pages) and I'm about halfway through the first draft of an introductory > text on software engineering. So being "semi-retired" means I am still > working full-time but not receiving a regular pay check. > > Life is good here. Hope all is well with you. > > -- Dick > > On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Gary PERLMAN wrote: > >> It seems like yesterday that we heard that the Wang Institute was closing, >> but it was over 21 years ago,a nd it's about 20 years ago that the final >> class graduated. >> >> Since that time, there have been occassional get-togethers and infrequent >> postings to this list. With Bo Sanden's recent post, I noted that there are >> 120 people on the list, but that delivery failed for 75 of them. Clearly, >> we are losing touch at a time when it would be fun to look back, and more >> fun to catch up. >> >> Around the time Caroline and I moved our family back to Montreal so she >> could >> join the faculty at McGill, my high school class was getting ready to have >> a 30th reunion. (Yes, I'm that old. Yes, I'm still with Caroline. Yes, we >> have >> kids -- Mark is 15 and George is 11. And yes, I'm originally from Montreal. >> So, you see, it's fun to catch up.) We used Yahoo Groups as our social >> software, >> and managed to post almost 5000 messages, 2500 in the month leading up to >> the >> reunion, which was thicker in memories than a hazy day in Beijing. For many >> of >> us, the real reunion was in the preparation in Yahoo Groups. We shared >> literally >> thousands of pictures (including class pictures from kindergarten through >> high >> school). These pictures, and many more artifacts, were scanned and added to >> a website that eventually turned into a comemorative CD with about 3000 >> items. >> >> I think it's possible that we organize a face-to-face WIGS reunion, but I >> would like to propose that we have a virtual reunion, in Yahoo Groups, or >> Facebook, or wherever. I am open to suggestions, especially if they don't >> mean a lot of work for me. I've created a group on FaceBook called >> Wang Institute of Graduate Studies >> I am not sure if it is set up properly, but I set it up as a closed group. >> >> Gary Perlman, Research Scientist, oclc.org >> >> > From perlman@turing.acm.org Sat Aug 23 17:54:56 2008 -0400 Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:54:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: wigs-l@listserv.acm.org Subject: Re: Wang Institute Listserv, Virtual Reunion, 20 Years, yadda yadda yadda In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 18 Dear Wang-Insters (was there ever an official name?), So, I set up the Wang Institute group on Facebook, which attracted 10 members (counting me), and started a few posts, and got no action. On the other hand, Dick Fairley and Bill McKeeman posted great messages to the old WIGS-L listserv (I have already lost Bill's post in the sea of spam I get on my acm.org account). I am hoping that Dick and Bill will get onto Facebook, join the Wang Inst group, and repost their updates there. While there are only 10 members there now, messages there are archived, so as people join up, they can catch up. And people can post pictures, urls, etc. And for all I know, there might not be many more people than that actually getting mail via the WIGS-L list, at least judging from the list errors I see when people post. Try Wang Inst on Facebook. It will be fun. Why would I lie? Gary On Sun, 10 Aug 2008, Gary PERLMAN wrote: > It seems like yesterday that we heard that the Wang Institute was closing, > but it was over 21 years ago,a nd it's about 20 years ago that the final > class graduated. > > Since that time, there have been occassional get-togethers and infrequent > postings to this list. With Bo Sanden's recent post, I noted that there are > 120 people on the list, but that delivery failed for 75 of them. Clearly, > we are losing touch at a time when it would be fun to look back, and more > fun to catch up. > > Around the time Caroline and I moved our family back to Montreal so she could > join the faculty at McGill, my high school class was getting ready to have > a 30th reunion. (Yes, I'm that old. Yes, I'm still with Caroline. Yes, we > have > kids -- Mark is 15 and George is 11. And yes, I'm originally from Montreal. > So, you see, it's fun to catch up.) We used Yahoo Groups as our social > software, > and managed to post almost 5000 messages, 2500 in the month leading up to the > reunion, which was thicker in memories than a hazy day in Beijing. For many > of > us, the real reunion was in the preparation in Yahoo Groups. We shared > literally > thousands of pictures (including class pictures from kindergarten through > high > school). These pictures, and many more artifacts, were scanned and added to > a website that eventually turned into a comemorative CD with about 3000 > items. > > I think it's possible that we organize a face-to-face WIGS reunion, but I > would like to propose that we have a virtual reunion, in Yahoo Groups, or > Facebook, or wherever. I am open to suggestions, especially if they don't > mean a lot of work for me. I've created a group on FaceBook called > Wang Institute of Graduate Studies > I am not sure if it is set up properly, but I set it up as a closed group. > > Gary Perlman, Research Scientist, oclc.org > From perlman@turing.acm.org Mon Aug 25 13:05:15 2008 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:05:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: "Devkota, Prajjwal Prasad" Subject: Re: Request for download of stat |STAT In-Reply-To: <125056880.9543031219643326181.JavaMail.root@neo-mail-4> Message-ID: References: <125056880.9543031219643326181.JavaMail.root@neo-mail-4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 19 Thank you for your interest in |STAT data manipulation and analysis software. UNIX |STAT for is now (only) available via Web browsers at a secret location. http://www.hcibib.org/stat/xyzzy/ To obtain UNIX |STAT files, please follow the instructions at: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/#access There are installation notes (e.g., for Mac OS X and Linux) at: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/installation.txt DOS |STAT executables and documentation are available as a WinZip file: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/DOS-STAT.ZIP HTML documentation is available from the |STAT home page: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/ On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Devkota, Prajjwal Prasad wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to download stat for use in an academic project of mine. I have included the agreement at the end of this email. > > Thank you for your help, > > Prajjwal Devkota > Graduate Student, > Texas A&M University > > I AGREE TO ADHERE TO THE CONDITIONS OF USING |STAT. > I AGREE NOT TO SHARE THE |STAT LOCATION WITH OTHERS. > From perlman@turing.acm.org Mon Aug 25 13:05:27 2008 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:05:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: Bidyut Ghosh Subject: Re: Request for software In-Reply-To: <7a5a868f0808232138p763b2depbd6c0c5e267a31bf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <7a5a868f0808232138p763b2depbd6c0c5e267a31bf@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 20 Thank you for your interest in |STAT data manipulation and analysis software. UNIX |STAT for is now (only) available via Web browsers at a secret location. To obtain UNIX |STAT files, please follow the instructions at: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/#access There are installation notes (e.g., for Mac OS X and Linux) at: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/installation.txt DOS |STAT executables and documentation are available as a WinZip file: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/DOS-STAT.ZIP HTML documentation is available from the |STAT home page: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/ On Sun, 24 Aug 2008, Bidyut Ghosh wrote: > Sir, > I am researcher in economics from the Burdwan University. Burdwan, West > Bengal, India. I want to use your software IStat on linux platform. Please > allow by a link so that I can have it. > From perlman@turing.acm.org Mon Aug 25 14:10:47 2008 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:10:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: "Shneiderman, Ben" cc: "Gregory, Machon" , "Plaisant, Catherine" Subject: Re: HCIBIB data in Spotfire In-Reply-To: <44ECC48C52C97040BACBB07269CEEE46018D3205@delegate.pc.cs.umd.edu> Message-ID: References: <44ECC48C52C97040BACBB07269CEEE46018D3205@delegate.pc.cs.umd.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 21 The note about 2008 not being complete is a sign that you are watching for artifacts in the data. I think that's a good idea, because if you glance at the conference page: http://www.hcibib.org/confer.html you can see that hcibib stopped indexing HFES proceedings in 1995. (No one objected). For "universal", the sources menu shows that the HCII conference is the top source, but 2003 is the last year for which I have data. Maybe the term "web" is sufficiently widely used that conference coverage does not matter, but I do think that some web conferences have spotty coverage in the HCIBIB. The Intl. WWW conf has only been covered in 2007, probably because I could pick it up easily form the ACM DL. I think there is a good way how to control for such artefacts. If you choose your sources so the converage is complete for a period, that should help smooth out spikes due to changes in HCIBIB coverage instead of changes in research interest. It might look bad here, but in a script, it will not matter: universal (c.chi.*|c.uist.*|c.cscw.*|j.ijhcs.*|j.hci.*|j.ijhci.*|j.iwc.*|j.bit.*) For "universal", you might want to add c.cuu.* or c.hcii.*, but many hits in a specialized conference might not indicate a field-wide interest level as much as the effect of covering (or not covering) one or two conferences. It might be more interesting to note the changes in the field 1-5 years after the appearance of a specialized conference. Note that you can also filter out sources: web -c.www.* or universal -c.hcii.* -c.cuu.* universal -(c.hcii.*|c.cuu.*) The codes for conferences can be found by hovering over the left columns of the conference page: http://www.hcibib.org/confer.html or the journal page: http://www.hcibib.org/journal.html Anyway, I hope this is useful. Gary On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Shneiderman, Ben wrote: > HI Gary and Machon, > > I've taken the data on 123 HCI terms from 1970 to 2008... here are two > slides from Spotfire that show some nice features. > > Thanks to you both for making this happen... this will help for > Machon's masters thesis project, and we will think about how to use this > for the 5th edition of DTUI. > > <> Thanks... Ben S > From perlman@turing.acm.org Tue Aug 26 10:21:38 2008 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:21:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: Craig Johnston Subject: Re: |STAT request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 22 Thank you for your interest in |STAT data manipulation and analysis software. UNIX |STAT for is now (only) available via Web browsers at a secret location. http://www.hcibib.org/stat/xyzzy/ To obtain UNIX |STAT files, please follow the instructions at: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/#access There are installation notes (e.g., for Mac OS X and Linux) at: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/installation.txt DOS |STAT executables and documentation are available as a WinZip file: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/DOS-STAT.ZIP HTML documentation is available from the |STAT home page: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/ On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Craig Johnston wrote: > I AGREE TO ADHERE TO THE CONDITIONS OF USING |STAT. > I AGREE NOT TO SHARE THE |STAT LOCATION WITH OTHERS. > From perlman@turing.acm.org Tue Aug 26 19:14:30 2008 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:14:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: ACM Listserv Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 23 rev chi-jobs From perlman@turing.acm.org Tue Aug 26 19:52:04 2008 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:52:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: Paula Subject: Re: Human Computer Interaction In-Reply-To: <71AA14D196A14F869C95EAF1C1D8D578@yellowmagic.com> Message-ID: References: <71AA14D196A14F869C95EAF1C1D8D578@yellowmagic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 24 Dear Ms. Menard, Although I know it gets accessed a lot, yours is the first message I have ever received originating from the SIGCHI CDG report. Attached to your message, I found a letter from Ken Clark, not a resume, so I will only comment on the appropriateness of a sociology degree to contemporary software development. While the field of psychology has long been associated with the development of user interfaces from the human side of human-computer interaction, the field of sociology has in the past 20 year has steadily increased in applicability to the development of social interfaces. An understanding of the issues and methods for investigating them should have immediate relevance to the hottest killer app of today: social networks such as Facebook, MySpace, Flickr, eBay, and the like, as well as to applications where information is shared among groups, such as user created content in Google maps, Yahoo, and dare I say, Yellow Pages. In the field of HCI, it is worth noting the increase of interest in social aspects. Here is a table of the number of publications, by year, matching the term "social": http://hcibib.org/bs.cgi?format=datetable&query=social The matching records have be seen with this: http://hcibib.org/bs.cgi?query=social Note that the data for 2008 is incomplete, of course, but the trend looks exponential. What was once a field concerned with the interaction of a person WITH a computer application has become a field concerned with the interaction of social networks THROUGH computer applications. Gary Perlman, Ph.D. (UCSD 1982 Psychology) Research Scientist http://www.oclc.org On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Paula wrote: > Re: http://www.sigchi.org/cdg/index.html > > Dear Mr. Perlman, > > Recently we have been attempting to hire a young man from South Africa who > has a degree with Honors from the University of Pretoria. > > His background and work experience is Programming Development, specifically > for your Yellow Page Directory Industry. > > He has several years as a developer and Sr. Manager. > > Is there anyone that can comment on Sam Pretorius' resume, C.V. > > And confirm that a degree in Sociology is quite fitting and desirable > for our position as Director of Program Development, and International > Liaison to our Foreign Accounts? > > We will need an expert opinion to obtain Sam an H 1 B visa. We have other > letters from his professors but the evaluators > prefer something more 'third party." > > I would like to submit your website information to the evaluators to see > your recommendations for Curricula for the HCI program. > > Perhaps someone could write us a letter summarizing why Sociology is a good > degree to obtain, along with the programming experience for a Program > Developer.in general? Let me know how to proceed as time is of the essence > on our RFE responses to the US Government. > > We already have one third party opinion, a professional Educational > Evaluation, and several letters. I think your Curricula and program designs > though are exactly what the evaluators need to understand. > > Thank you for your recommendations, > > Paula > > Paula Menard > Director of Marketing > Yellow Magic Incorporated > 41571 Date Street > Murrieta, CA 92562 > (951)-506-4005, Ext 118 > (951)-506-1919 Fax > paula@YellowMagic.com > > www.YellowMagic.com > Directory Software for the World > Print, CD-ROM, Internet & Mobile (PDA) > > > > > > > From perlman@turing.acm.org Wed Aug 27 15:29:01 2008 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:28:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: Ulli.Linzen@dab.com Subject: Re: THE |STAT LOCATION In-Reply-To: <06BE086186C0BA4E80CF81DE3C901C6D03A22170@DAB-MAIL-BVE03.dab01.int> Message-ID: References: <06BE086186C0BA4E80CF81DE3C901C6D03A22170@DAB-MAIL-BVE03.dab01.int> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 25 Thank you for your interest in |STAT data manipulation and analysis software. UNIX |STAT for is now (only) available via Web browsers at a secret location. http://www.hcibib.org/stat/xyzzy/ To obtain UNIX |STAT files, please follow the instructions at: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/#access There are installation notes (e.g., for Mac OS X and Linux) at: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/installation.txt DOS |STAT executables and documentation are available as a WinZip file: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/DOS-STAT.ZIP HTML documentation is available from the |STAT home page: http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/ On Wed, 27 Aug 2008, Ulli.Linzen@dab.com wrote: > I AGREE TO ADHERE TO THE CONDITIONS OF USING |STAT. > I AGREE NOT TO SHARE THE |STAT LOCATION WITH OTHERS. > > > From perlman@turing.acm.org Wed Aug 27 15:56:16 2008 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:56:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: "Shneiderman, Ben" cc: "Gregory, Machon" , "Plaisant, Catherine" Subject: RE: HCIBIB data in Spotfire In-Reply-To: <44ECC48C52C97040BACBB07269CEEE46018D3254@delegate.pc.cs.umd.edu> Message-ID: References: <44ECC48C52C97040BACBB07269CEEE46018D3205@delegate.pc.cs.umd.edu> <44ECC48C52C97040BACBB07269CEEE46018D3254@delegate.pc.cs.umd.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 26 I think that this page of prepared searches to find various topics might be an area where you could contribute: http://www.hcibib.org/canned.html Seeing a graph comparing these over time might be nice, but your investigations might suggest topics to add. For each topic, there are: alternative names, separated by vertical bars and permuted alphabetically boolean queries with wildcards that attempt to get at the right topic Some are really simple, like GOMS or music*, but some are complex, like accessibility. Another thought, besides controlling which sources are included in your analyses, you could also normalize with the number of publications, which has been pretty steady for the past 15 years, but which rose a lot from 1980-92. http://www.hcibib.org/pubdates.html Did I mention that I colorized this page of authors? http://www.hcibib.org/authors.html All for now. Good luck. Gary On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Shneiderman, Ben wrote: > Thanks Gary for the cautions. > > The big spike for Universal in 2003 was for the HCII Universal Access > for All and the Universal Usability conferences. Your explanation > clarifies why there is no similar spike in 2005 or 2007 for the HCII UAA > conference. > > Overall, there are likely to be many surprises, but the data set is > still useful, even if it just finds some of these anomalies. > > We'll keep you informed... your help, wisdom, and suggestions are much > appreciated. Do you have any thoughts about how we might help you? How > about lists of the ten fastest growing/shrinking topics? Biggest spikes > in the past ten years? > > Best wishes... Ben S > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary PERLMAN [mailto:perlman@turing.acm.org] > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:11 PM > To: Shneiderman, Ben > Cc: Gregory, Machon; Plaisant, Catherine > Subject: Re: HCIBIB data in Spotfire > > The note about 2008 not being complete is a sign that you are watching > for artifacts in the data. > I think that's a good idea, because if you glance at the conference > page: > http://www.hcibib.org/confer.html > you can see that hcibib stopped indexing HFES proceedings in 1995. (No > one objected). > > For "universal", the sources menu shows that the HCII conference is the > top source, > but 2003 is the last year for which I have data. > > Maybe the term "web" is sufficiently widely used that conference > coverage does not matter, > but I do think that some web conferences have spotty coverage in the > HCIBIB. The Intl. WWW > conf has only been covered in 2007, probably because I could pick it up > easily form the ACM DL. > > I think there is a good way how to control for such artefacts. If you > choose your sources > so the converage is complete for a period, that should help smooth out > spikes due to > changes in HCIBIB coverage instead of changes in research interest. It > might look bad here, > but in a script, it will not matter: > universal > (c.chi.*|c.uist.*|c.cscw.*|j.ijhcs.*|j.hci.*|j.ijhci.*|j.iwc.*|j.bit.*) > For "universal", you might want to add c.cuu.* or c.hcii.*, but many > hits in a specialized > conference might not indicate a field-wide interest level as much as the > effect of covering > (or not covering) one or two conferences. It might be more interesting > to note the changes > in the field 1-5 years after the appearance of a specialized conference. > > Note that you can also filter out sources: > web -c.www.* > or > universal -c.hcii.* -c.cuu.* > universal -(c.hcii.*|c.cuu.*) > > The codes for conferences can be found by hovering over the left columns > of the conference page: > http://www.hcibib.org/confer.html > or the journal page: > http://www.hcibib.org/journal.html > > Anyway, I hope this is useful. > > Gary > > On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Shneiderman, Ben wrote: > >> HI Gary and Machon, >> >> I've taken the data on 123 HCI terms from 1970 to 2008... here are > two >> slides from Spotfire that show some nice features. >> >> Thanks to you both for making this happen... this will help for >> Machon's masters thesis project, and we will think about how to use > this >> for the 5th edition of DTUI. >> >> <> Thanks... Ben S >> > > From perlman@turing.acm.org Thu Aug 28 17:56:29 2008 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:56:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: normore@utk.edu Subject: CSTG and such Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 27 Hi Lorraine, I happened on this the other day: http://hcibib.org/perlman/hfeshci/ Human Factors Perspectives on Human-Computer Interaction: Selections from Proceedings of Human Factors and Ergonomics Society Annual Meetings, 1983-1994 and I thought that someone, not me, should do an update. I thought YOU would be an ideal choice. The preface is a method section: http://hcibib.org/perlman/hfeshci/preface.html I'd be happy to write to Lois Smith / HFES in support of this thankless task I am proposing you do. Hope all is well, Gary From perlman@turing.acm.org Thu Aug 28 20:10:04 2008 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:10:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: "Shneiderman, Ben" cc: "Gregory, Machon" , "Plaisant, Catherine" Subject: RE: HCIBIB data in Spotfire In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <44ECC48C52C97040BACBB07269CEEE46018D3205@delegate.pc.cs.umd.edu> <44ECC48C52C97040BACBB07269CEEE46018D3254@delegate.pc.cs.umd.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 28 Coincidentally, I was just asked about the relevance of sociology to HCI and I ended up including data on the rise of the term "social" in hcibib. http://hcibib.org/bs.cgi?format=datetable&query=social On Wed, 27 Aug 2008, Gary PERLMAN wrote: > I think that this page of prepared searches to find various topics > might be an area where you could contribute: > http://www.hcibib.org/canned.html > Seeing a graph comparing these over time might be nice, > but your investigations might suggest topics to add. > > For each topic, there are: > alternative names, separated by vertical bars and permuted > alphabetically > boolean queries with wildcards that attempt to get at the right topic > Some are really simple, like GOMS or music*, but some are complex, > like accessibility. > > Another thought, besides controlling which sources are included in > your analyses, you could also normalize with the number of publications, > which has been pretty steady for the past 15 years, but which rose > a lot from 1980-92. > http://www.hcibib.org/pubdates.html > > Did I mention that I colorized this page of authors? > http://www.hcibib.org/authors.html > > All for now. Good luck. > > Gary > > On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Shneiderman, Ben wrote: > >> Thanks Gary for the cautions. >> >> The big spike for Universal in 2003 was for the HCII Universal Access >> for All and the Universal Usability conferences. Your explanation >> clarifies why there is no similar spike in 2005 or 2007 for the HCII UAA >> conference. >> >> Overall, there are likely to be many surprises, but the data set is >> still useful, even if it just finds some of these anomalies. >> >> We'll keep you informed... your help, wisdom, and suggestions are much >> appreciated. Do you have any thoughts about how we might help you? How >> about lists of the ten fastest growing/shrinking topics? Biggest spikes >> in the past ten years? >> >> Best wishes... Ben S >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Gary PERLMAN [mailto:perlman@turing.acm.org] >> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:11 PM >> To: Shneiderman, Ben >> Cc: Gregory, Machon; Plaisant, Catherine >> Subject: Re: HCIBIB data in Spotfire >> >> The note about 2008 not being complete is a sign that you are watching >> for artifacts in the data. >> I think that's a good idea, because if you glance at the conference >> page: >> http://www.hcibib.org/confer.html >> you can see that hcibib stopped indexing HFES proceedings in 1995. (No >> one objected). >> >> For "universal", the sources menu shows that the HCII conference is the >> top source, >> but 2003 is the last year for which I have data. >> >> Maybe the term "web" is sufficiently widely used that conference >> coverage does not matter, >> but I do think that some web conferences have spotty coverage in the >> HCIBIB. The Intl. WWW >> conf has only been covered in 2007, probably because I could pick it up >> easily form the ACM DL. >> >> I think there is a good way how to control for such artefacts. If you >> choose your sources >> so the converage is complete for a period, that should help smooth out >> spikes due to >> changes in HCIBIB coverage instead of changes in research interest. It >> might look bad here, >> but in a script, it will not matter: >> universal >> (c.chi.*|c.uist.*|c.cscw.*|j.ijhcs.*|j.hci.*|j.ijhci.*|j.iwc.*|j.bit.*) >> For "universal", you might want to add c.cuu.* or c.hcii.*, but many >> hits in a specialized >> conference might not indicate a field-wide interest level as much as the >> effect of covering >> (or not covering) one or two conferences. It might be more interesting >> to note the changes >> in the field 1-5 years after the appearance of a specialized conference. >> >> Note that you can also filter out sources: >> web -c.www.* >> or >> universal -c.hcii.* -c.cuu.* >> universal -(c.hcii.*|c.cuu.*) >> >> The codes for conferences can be found by hovering over the left columns >> of the conference page: >> http://www.hcibib.org/confer.html >> or the journal page: >> http://www.hcibib.org/journal.html >> >> Anyway, I hope this is useful. >> >> Gary >> >> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Shneiderman, Ben wrote: >> >>> HI Gary and Machon, >>> >>> I've taken the data on 123 HCI terms from 1970 to 2008... here are >> two >>> slides from Spotfire that show some nice features. >>> >>> Thanks to you both for making this happen... this will help for >>> Machon's masters thesis project, and we will think about how to use >> this >>> for the 5th edition of DTUI. >>> >>> <> Thanks... Ben S >>> >> >> > From perlman@turing.acm.org Fri Aug 29 22:46:16 2008 -0400 Status: X-Status: X-Keywords: Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:46:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: Gary perlman Subject: multilingual guidelines Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed add more about using meaningful names for variables e.g., time = Time: better DurationOfVideo = Time: