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From perlman@turing.acm.org Thu Nov  1 12:40:05 2012 -0400
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 12:40:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gary PERLMAN <perlman@turing.acm.org>
To: Sunshine Blouw <SBlouw@csir.co.za>
Subject: Re: |STAT request
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Thank you for your interest in |STAT data manipulation and analysis software.

UNIX |STAT for is now (only) available via Web browsers at a secret location.
 	http://www.hcibib.org/stat/xyzzy/

To obtain UNIX |STAT files, please follow the instructions at:
 	http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/#access
There are installation notes (e.g., for Mac OS X and Linux) at:
 	http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/installation.txt

DOS |STAT executables and documentation are available as a WinZip file:
 	http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/DOS-STAT.ZIP

HTML documentation is available from the |STAT home page:
 	http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/

On Thu, 1 Nov 2012, Sunshine Blouw wrote:

> I AGREE TO ADHERE TO THE CONDITIONS OF USING |STAT.
> I AGREE NOT TO SHARE THE |STAT LOCATION WITH OTHERS
>
> Sunshine Blouw
> CSIR- Material Science & Manufacturing
> Fibre & Textile Competency Area
> PO Box 1124, Port Elizabeth 6000
> South Africa
> Tel: +27 (0) 41 5083289
> Fax: +27 (0) 41 5832325
> e-mail: sblouw@csir.co.za
>
>

From perlman@turing.acm.org Sun Nov  4 20:08:23 2012 -0500
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 20:08:22 -0500 (EST)
From: Gary PERLMAN <perlman@turing.acm.org>
To: sigchi-VP-Conferences@acm.org
Subject: conference web sites
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Hi Scooter,

I'm just finishing cleaning up a virus I think I picked up from a
conference website, not an ACM conference, but the lessons are the same.

When the XYZ conference sets up their website for 2005, what could
possibly be better than xyz2005.org, right?  Here's what happens.  A
conference sets this up for a year, and the next conferenece finds out
that a squatter is sitting on xyz2006.org, and maybe a few more years. 
So, how about xyz2006.info?  Let's assume that works out, and the next
few years are just fine.  But on the other end of the equation, someone
has forgotten to review xyz2005.org and it turns into a zombie site,
maybe one with some nasty viruses for the archival visitor.

Who has it right?

UIST
 	http://www.acm.org/uist goes to http://www.acm.org/uist/uist2012/
 	http://www.acm.org/uist/uist2013 works as does http://www.acm.org/uist/uist1995/
 	So uist does not have to worry about reserving or losing a domain.

CHI
 	http://chi2013.acm.org/
 	http://chi2012.acm.org/
 	http://chi2011.acm.org/ nope, it's at http://www.chi2011.org/
 	http://www.chi2010.org/ and it's like that all the way back to:
 	...
 	http://www.chi2002.org/ but I'm not keen to click on any of those links (they are safe, tho)
 	http://www.sigchi.org/chi2001/ and on back to
 	http://www.sigchi.org/chi95/

CSCW
 	http://www.cscw2012.org/ back to http://www.cscw2006.org/
 	http://www.acm.org/conferences/cscw2004/
 	http://www.acm.org/conferences/cscw2002/
 	http://old.sigchi.org/cscw2000/
 	http://old.sigchi.org/cscw98/
 	http://old.sigchi.org/cscw96/

IUI
 	iuiconf.org always goes to the current conference, but there are no links to old ones
 		http://www.iuiconf.org/IUI/History/ has a coming soon line to Past Conferences

DIS
 	similar to CSCW, with similar issues with old.sigchi.org,
 	but with additional issues of upper case, and missing sites

And so on.

I do have a long list of URLs for conferences,
many of which no longer see to work,
and if you like, I could send a robot to check them out
to see how many links are broken.
You can decide if you want to look at this more,
to make some changes for future conferences.
I suggest something mundane like:
 	sigchi.org/confer/<name>/<year>
or
 	acm.org/confer/<name>/<year>
or
 	<CONF>conf.org/<year>
or maybe with a hyphen, like
 	CHI-conf.org

Currently available:
 	CSCWconf.org
 	CHIconf.org
 	UISTconf.org
 	DISconf.org
 	e-t-r-a.org is in use by the ETRA conference, however etraconf.org is available
 	IDCconf.org
 	ITSconf.org
 	TEI-conf.org is in use by the TEI conference,
 		so maybe hyphenated is the way to go, but maybe not e-t-r-a.org

Gary

From perlman@turing.acm.org Mon Nov  5 14:43:59 2012 -0500
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 14:43:58 -0500 (EST)
From: Gary PERLMAN <perlman@turing.acm.org>
To: Scooter Morris <scooter@cgl.ucsf.edu>
Subject: Re: conference web sites
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I can understand acm's thinking:
  - full control of redirection through config files
  - no need to acquire or maintain new domains
  - acm branding on every url

Now that I think of it, if squatters are sitting on chixxxx.org,
they probably will get hits from people manually entering the url.
"I'm on chi2010.org, so it's an easy edit to get to CHI 2013..."
where, hopefully, the squatter is not malicious.

I don't want to suggest a bunch of work, but maybe chi2002.org .. chi2010.org
should do a permanent redirect to chixxxx.acm.org, so that users don't see
the current urls. Otherwise, some users (maybe just me) will be tempted to edit.

Anyway, good luck with this distasteful aspect of our modern world.

Gary

On Sun, 4 Nov 2012, Scooter Morris wrote:

> Hi Gary,
>    Thanks for the info.  In fact, we did wind up with a lot of squatters on 
> chixxxx.org, which is why the most recent conferences are now at 
> chixxxx.acm.org.  This turns out to be a lot easier than some of the other 
> approaches for internal operational reasons within ACM.  Your points are well 
> taken, and I'll bring this up at our next CMC meeting.
>
> -- scooter
>
> On 11/4/12 5:08 PM, Gary PERLMAN wrote:
>> Hi Scooter,
>> 
>> I'm just finishing cleaning up a virus I think I picked up from a
>> conference website, not an ACM conference, but the lessons are the same.
>> 
>> When the XYZ conference sets up their website for 2005, what could
>> possibly be better than xyz2005.org, right?  Here's what happens. A
>> conference sets this up for a year, and the next conferenece finds out
>> that a squatter is sitting on xyz2006.org, and maybe a few more years. So, 
>> how about xyz2006.info?  Let's assume that works out, and the next
>> few years are just fine.  But on the other end of the equation, someone
>> has forgotten to review xyz2005.org and it turns into a zombie site,
>> maybe one with some nasty viruses for the archival visitor.
>> 
>> Who has it right?
>> 
>> UIST
>>     http://www.acm.org/uist goes to http://www.acm.org/uist/uist2012/
>>     http://www.acm.org/uist/uist2013 works as does 
>> http://www.acm.org/uist/uist1995/
>>     So uist does not have to worry about reserving or losing a domain.
>> 
>> CHI
>>     http://chi2013.acm.org/
>>     http://chi2012.acm.org/
>>     http://chi2011.acm.org/ nope, it's at http://www.chi2011.org/
>>     http://www.chi2010.org/ and it's like that all the way back to:
>>     ...
>>     http://www.chi2002.org/ but I'm not keen to click on any of those links 
>> (they are safe, tho)
>>     http://www.sigchi.org/chi2001/ and on back to
>>     http://www.sigchi.org/chi95/
>> 
>> CSCW
>>     http://www.cscw2012.org/ back to http://www.cscw2006.org/
>>     http://www.acm.org/conferences/cscw2004/
>>     http://www.acm.org/conferences/cscw2002/
>>     http://old.sigchi.org/cscw2000/
>>     http://old.sigchi.org/cscw98/
>>     http://old.sigchi.org/cscw96/
>> 
>> IUI
>>     iuiconf.org always goes to the current conference, but there are no 
>> links to old ones
>>         http://www.iuiconf.org/IUI/History/ has a coming soon line to Past 
>> Conferences
>> 
>> DIS
>>     similar to CSCW, with similar issues with old.sigchi.org,
>>     but with additional issues of upper case, and missing sites
>> 
>> And so on.
>> 
>> I do have a long list of URLs for conferences,
>> many of which no longer see to work,
>> and if you like, I could send a robot to check them out
>> to see how many links are broken.
>> You can decide if you want to look at this more,
>> to make some changes for future conferences.
>> I suggest something mundane like:
>>     sigchi.org/confer/<name>/<year>
>> or
>>     acm.org/confer/<name>/<year>
>> or
>>     <CONF>conf.org/<year>
>> or maybe with a hyphen, like
>>     CHI-conf.org
>> 
>> Currently available:
>>     CSCWconf.org
>>     CHIconf.org
>>     UISTconf.org
>>     DISconf.org
>>     e-t-r-a.org is in use by the ETRA conference, however etraconf.org is 
>> available
>>     IDCconf.org
>>     ITSconf.org
>>     TEI-conf.org is in use by the TEI conference,
>>         so maybe hyphenated is the way to go, but maybe not e-t-r-a.org
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
>> ############################
>> 
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>> write to: mailto:SIGCHI-VP-CONFERENCES-SIGNOFF-REQUEST@LISTSERV.ACM.ORG
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From perlman@turing.acm.org Wed Nov  7 21:54:11 2012 -0500
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 21:54:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Gary PERLMAN <perlman@turing.acm.org>
To: "Lapidis, Rachael" <rlapidis@ucsd.edu>
Subject: Re: Grad Students Seeking your Career Advice - UCSD Psychology
In-Reply-To: <9378F565-3C05-48F5-B5CF-A002AE7A8349@ucsd.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1211072148540.3673@turing.acm.org>
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On Wed, 7 Nov 2012, Lapidis, Rachael wrote:

I do have fond memories of my time at UCSD.

Your info on me is correct.

a. sure, but I think they should use a less spam-filled address, so gary@perlman.ca
b. sure, but I would like to get some guidance about what you are looking for
c. probably not, as I am not someone who thinks well on his feet

Gary

> Dear Dr. Perlman,
>
> Greetings from the UCSD Psychology Department!  We hope you have some fond memories of your time in the program, and we are working to improve the program even further.  One way in which we are doing this is by providing additional guidance and resources to our current grads as they plan their career transitions.  We are hopeful that you will be willing to help in this pursuit.
>
> Would you be willing to provide your advice and expertise to our current grads in one (or more) of the following ways? (You may place an X in any or all of the lines below if you are willing to help in that way)
>
> ___ a) Grant permission for current psychology PhD students interested in your career to contact you
> ___ b) Provide a brief written summary of your career path that we might share with interested psychology PhD students
> ___ c) Participate (either in person or via Skype) in a workshop or panel for our current PhD students about your career transition experience and advice that you might have for those looking to enter your field
>
> My records indicate that your initial employment after graduate school was as a member of the technical staff at Bell Labs, and that your current employment is as Lead User Experience Researcher at OCLC Inc.  Can you confirm that this is correct?
>
> Our current grads and I would be very grateful if you would reply to this email and let me know 1) whether our records are correct and 2) whether you will allow our current grads to learn from your experiences in one (or more) of the three ways above. It would be particularly helpful to have your participation, as many of our current grads are interested in non-academic career paths, and have fewer campus resources to provide guidance on fields such as your own.
>
> If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me at any time.
>
> We look forward to hearing from you!
>
> Rachael Lapidis
> Graduate Coordinator
> UCSD, Dept. of Psychology
> 9500 Gilman Dr. M/C 0109
> La Jolla, CA 92093
> 858.534.3002
> rlapidis@ucsd.edu<mailto:rlapidis@ucsd.edu>
> www.psychology.ucsd.edu<http://www.psychology.ucsd.edu/>
>
>
>
>
>

From perlman@turing.acm.org Thu Nov  8 16:18:28 2012 -0500
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 16:18:28 -0500 (EST)
From: Gary PERLMAN <perlman@turing.acm.org>
To: Thomas Palmer <tmpalmer@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Ancestors' Bones
In-Reply-To: <3C412F6F-F61C-46B8-8F7F-F5973FC5E746@comcast.net>
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Here is a good place to start: http://perlman.ca/pictures/family.htm

On Wed, 7 Nov 2012, Thomas Palmer wrote:

> I can't seem to find this site of yours anywhere.  Would you mind providing a link?
>
> Thanks!
> Tom
>

From perlman@turing.acm.org Thu Nov  8 16:20:52 2012 -0500
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 16:20:51 -0500 (EST)
From: Gary PERLMAN <perlman@turing.acm.org>
To: "Lapidis, Rachael" <rlapidis@ucsd.edu>
cc: Katherine G Wagner <kgwagner@ucsd.edu>
Subject: Re: Grad Students Seeking your Career Advice - UCSD Psychology
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I understand. I'll will put something together and send it to you to give feedback.

Best,

Gary

On Thu, 8 Nov 2012, Lapidis, Rachael wrote:

> Dear Dr. Perlman,
>
> Many thanks for your speedy and helpful response!  Thank you also for updating your email address for our records.
>
> As for the short career summary, if you are willing it would be helpful to include any information that might be of assistance to our current grads.  How did you decide what you wanted to do after graduate school? How many applications did you send?  Any advice on how to ace the interviews? What led you to your current career?  I'm ccing our Career Transition Rep, Katie Wagner, on this message as she might have other specific information that might be helpful in such a summary.
>
> Thanks very much again!
>
> Warm wishes,
>
> Rachael Lapidis
> Graduate Coordinator
> UCSD, Dept. of Psychology
> 9500 Gilman Dr. M/C 0109
> La Jolla, CA 92093
> 858.534.3002
> rlapidis@ucsd.edu<mailto:rlapidis@ucsd.edu>
> www.psychology.ucsd.edu<http://www.psychology.ucsd.edu/>
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 7, 2012, at 6:54 PM, Gary PERLMAN <perlman@turing.acm.org<mailto:perlman@turing.acm.org>> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 7 Nov 2012, Lapidis, Rachael wrote:
>
> I do have fond memories of my time at UCSD.
>
> Your info on me is correct.
>
> a. sure, but I think they should use a less spam-filled address, so gary@perlman.ca<mailto:gary@perlman.ca>
> b. sure, but I would like to get some guidance about what you are looking for
> c. probably not, as I am not someone who thinks well on his feet
>
> Gary
>
> Dear Dr. Perlman,
>
> Greetings from the UCSD Psychology Department!  We hope you have some fond memories of your time in the program, and we are working to improve the program even further.  One way in which we are doing this is by providing additional guidance and resources to our current grads as they plan their career transitions.  We are hopeful that you will be willing to help in this pursuit.
>
> Would you be willing to provide your advice and expertise to our current grads in one (or more) of the following ways? (You may place an X in any or all of the lines below if you are willing to help in that way)
>
> ___ a) Grant permission for current psychology PhD students interested in your career to contact you
> ___ b) Provide a brief written summary of your career path that we might share with interested psychology PhD students
> ___ c) Participate (either in person or via Skype) in a workshop or panel for our current PhD students about your career transition experience and advice that you might have for those looking to enter your field
>
> My records indicate that your initial employment after graduate school was as a member of the technical staff at Bell Labs, and that your current employment is as Lead User Experience Researcher at OCLC Inc.  Can you confirm that this is correct?
>
> Our current grads and I would be very grateful if you would reply to this email and let me know 1) whether our records are correct and 2) whether you will allow our current grads to learn from your experiences in one (or more) of the three ways above. It would be particularly helpful to have your participation, as many of our current grads are interested in non-academic career paths, and have fewer campus resources to provide guidance on fields such as your own.
>
> If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me at any time.
>
> We look forward to hearing from you!
>
> Rachael Lapidis
> Graduate Coordinator
> UCSD, Dept. of Psychology
> 9500 Gilman Dr. M/C 0109
> La Jolla, CA 92093
> 858.534.3002
> rlapidis@ucsd.edu<mailto:rlapidis@ucsd.edu><mailto:rlapidis@ucsd.edu>
> www.psychology.ucsd.edu<http://www.psychology.ucsd.edu><http://www.psychology.ucsd.edu/>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

From perlman@turing.acm.org Thu Nov  8 22:26:40 2012 -0500
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 22:26:40 -0500 (EST)
From: Gary PERLMAN <perlman@turing.acm.org>
To: Adam Greenberg <greenberg@member.acm.org>
cc: Adam Greenberg <greenberg@hq.acm.org>, 
    Gary perlman <perlman@turing.acm.org>
Subject: Re: issues with the hcibib.org website
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Hi Adam,

First let me apoliogize for whatever I might have done.
I have modified bibtoc to print a message that it is down for maintenance.
Please restore hcibib.org so people can use the rest of the site while
I explore problems with bibtoc.

I think that some users found a way to ask for the combined tables
of contents of over 1000 conferences and journal volumes,
and I think that could be the source of the huge cpu utilization.
 	2012-11-08 16:34:09 bibdata/
 	2012-11-08 16:43:12 bibdata/
 	2012-11-08 22:09:43 bibdata/
It will be easy to put in a fix to make sure that even if bibtoc is
asked for something ridiculous, it won't try to do it.

As for moving hcibib.org to a new host, I see no problem other than the usual
need to change a few (I hope) hard-coded filenames and making sure that
all the programs I use are available. I use:
 	ksh (but I can get by with bash, if I can't get ksh)
 	rcs
 	perl
and after that, I think I am using ordinary linux/unix utilities.

Gary

On Thu, 8 Nov 2012, Adam Greenberg wrote:

> Hello Gary,
>
> Over the past 2 days we starting having issues with the apache servers
> running on the turing.acm.org server.  We are seeing the program ?bibtoc?
> get hit and take up 100% cpu utilization.
>
> I noticed that the file date on the file and it was changed on Nov 6.  Did
> you make changes to the programs?  I had to take the site down so that we
> could keep all the other websites on turing running.
>
> Can you please have a look at the programs and let me know when I can put
> the website back online.
>
>
>
> Also, we need to work on getting you moved off of this
> turing.acm.orgserver and onto our new hosting environment.
>
> This message is coming from a different mailbox because we are having an
> issue with our hq.acm.org mail being delayed at the moment.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> Adam Greenberg
>
> Senior Systems Analyst
>
> Association for Computing Machinery
>
> 2 Penn Plaza
>
> Suite 701
>
> New York, NY 10121
>
> 212-626-0573
>
> greenberg@acm.org
>

From perlman@turing.acm.org Fri Nov  9 10:20:27 2012 -0500
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 10:20:26 -0500 (EST)
From: Gary PERLMAN <perlman@turing.acm.org>
To: Adam Greenberg <greenberg@hq.acm.org>
cc: Adam Greenberg <greenberg@member.acm.org>, Ken Bauer <kenbauer@acm.org>
Subject: RE: issues with the hcibib.org website
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Thanks Adam,

bibtoc is correctly displaying its maintenance message, and the site it there, but a link directly to my preferred short form:
 	http://hcibib.org
goes to the Turing award page. Could you please direct it to the HCI Bibliography?

I'll get to fixing the issues this morning.

Gary

On Fri, 9 Nov 2012, Adam Greenberg wrote:

> Hi Gary,
> I put the site back online. Please let me know when you have fixed the issues.
>
> I will get new space defined for you in our new environment and send you the information when it's ready.
>
> Thanks
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary PERLMAN [mailto:perlman@turing.acm.org]
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 10:27 PM
> To: Adam Greenberg
> Cc: Adam Greenberg; Gary perlman
> Subject: Re: issues with the hcibib.org website
>
> Hi Adam,
>
> First let me apoliogize for whatever I might have done.
> I have modified bibtoc to print a message that it is down for maintenance.
> Please restore hcibib.org so people can use the rest of the site while I explore problems with bibtoc.
>
> I think that some users found a way to ask for the combined tables of contents of over 1000 conferences and journal volumes, and I think that could be the source of the huge cpu utilization.
> 	2012-11-08 16:34:09 bibdata/
> 	2012-11-08 16:43:12 bibdata/
> 	2012-11-08 22:09:43 bibdata/
> It will be easy to put in a fix to make sure that even if bibtoc is asked for something ridiculous, it won't try to do it.
>
> As for moving hcibib.org to a new host, I see no problem other than the usual need to change a few (I hope) hard-coded filenames and making sure that all the programs I use are available. I use:
> 	ksh (but I can get by with bash, if I can't get ksh)
> 	rcs
> 	perl
> and after that, I think I am using ordinary linux/unix utilities.
>
> Gary
>
> On Thu, 8 Nov 2012, Adam Greenberg wrote:
>
>> Hello Gary,
>>
>> Over the past 2 days we starting having issues with the apache servers
>> running on the turing.acm.org server.  We are seeing the program ?bibtoc?
>> get hit and take up 100% cpu utilization.
>>
>> I noticed that the file date on the file and it was changed on Nov 6.
>> Did you make changes to the programs?  I had to take the site down so
>> that we could keep all the other websites on turing running.
>>
>> Can you please have a look at the programs and let me know when I can
>> put the website back online.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, we need to work on getting you moved off of this
>> turing.acm.orgserver and onto our new hosting environment.
>>
>> This message is coming from a different mailbox because we are having
>> an issue with our hq.acm.org mail being delayed at the moment.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam Greenberg
>>
>> Senior Systems Analyst
>>
>> Association for Computing Machinery
>>
>> 2 Penn Plaza
>>
>> Suite 701
>>
>> New York, NY 10121
>>
>> 212-626-0573
>>
>> greenberg@acm.org
>>
>
>
>

From perlman@turing.acm.org Fri Nov  9 11:26:30 2012 -0500
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 11:26:30 -0500 (EST)
From: Gary PERLMAN <perlman@turing.acm.org>
To: Adam Greenberg <greenberg@hq.acm.org>
cc: Adam Greenberg <greenberg@member.acm.org>, Ken Bauer <kenbauer@acm.org>
Subject: RE: issues with the hcibib.org website
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I don't want bs.cgi indexed or followed. Robots will find this in the output:
 	<meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" />
but it would be better to simply not fetch them at all. Would this work?
 	Disallow: /bs.cgi
In contrast, I do want bibtoc to be indexed, but not followed, so it shows:
 	<meta name="robots" content="index,nofollow" />

On Fri, 9 Nov 2012, Adam Greenberg wrote:

> Hi,
> Should bingbot be crawling hcibib.org  running queries like this?
>
> 157.56.93.194 - - [09/Nov/2012:10:45:00 -0500] "GET /search:tocauthor=Bhatti_A HTTP/1.1" 200 15970 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm)"
> 157.55.34.32 - - [09/Nov/2012:10:45:01 -0500] "GET /bs.cgi?searchtype=hotauthor&numrecs=25&sortkey=byDate&highlight=checked&form=line&facetsize=10&format=full&fullquery=+Flach%5FJ%2A+%2828%29+%2F+&query=hendrick_h* HTTP/1.1" 200 87757 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm)"
>
> Does the robots.txt file need to be tweaked?
>
> Adam
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary PERLMAN [mailto:perlman@turing.acm.org]
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:20 AM
> To: Adam Greenberg
> Cc: Adam Greenberg; Ken Bauer
> Subject: RE: issues with the hcibib.org website
>
> Thanks Adam,
>
> bibtoc is correctly displaying its maintenance message, and the site it there, but a link directly to my preferred short form:
> 	http://hcibib.org
> goes to the Turing award page. Could you please direct it to the HCI Bibliography?
>
> I'll get to fixing the issues this morning.
>
> Gary
>
> On Fri, 9 Nov 2012, Adam Greenberg wrote:
>
>> Hi Gary,
>> I put the site back online. Please let me know when you have fixed the issues.
>>
>> I will get new space defined for you in our new environment and send you the information when it's ready.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Adam
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gary PERLMAN [mailto:perlman@turing.acm.org]
>> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 10:27 PM
>> To: Adam Greenberg
>> Cc: Adam Greenberg; Gary perlman
>> Subject: Re: issues with the hcibib.org website
>>
>> Hi Adam,
>>
>> First let me apoliogize for whatever I might have done.
>> I have modified bibtoc to print a message that it is down for maintenance.
>> Please restore hcibib.org so people can use the rest of the site while I explore problems with bibtoc.
>>
>> I think that some users found a way to ask for the combined tables of contents of over 1000 conferences and journal volumes, and I think that could be the source of the huge cpu utilization.
>> 	2012-11-08 16:34:09 bibdata/
>> 	2012-11-08 16:43:12 bibdata/
>> 	2012-11-08 22:09:43 bibdata/
>> It will be easy to put in a fix to make sure that even if bibtoc is asked for something ridiculous, it won't try to do it.
>>
>> As for moving hcibib.org to a new host, I see no problem other than the usual need to change a few (I hope) hard-coded filenames and making sure that all the programs I use are available. I use:
>> 	ksh (but I can get by with bash, if I can't get ksh)
>> 	rcs
>> 	perl
>> and after that, I think I am using ordinary linux/unix utilities.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> On Thu, 8 Nov 2012, Adam Greenberg wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Gary,
>>>
>>> Over the past 2 days we starting having issues with the apache
>>> servers running on the turing.acm.org server.  We are seeing the program ?bibtoc?
>>> get hit and take up 100% cpu utilization.
>>>
>>> I noticed that the file date on the file and it was changed on Nov 6.
>>> Did you make changes to the programs?  I had to take the site down so
>>> that we could keep all the other websites on turing running.
>>>
>>> Can you please have a look at the programs and let me know when I can
>>> put the website back online.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, we need to work on getting you moved off of this
>>> turing.acm.orgserver and onto our new hosting environment.
>>>
>>> This message is coming from a different mailbox because we are having
>>> an issue with our hq.acm.org mail being delayed at the moment.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam Greenberg
>>>
>>> Senior Systems Analyst
>>>
>>> Association for Computing Machinery
>>>
>>> 2 Penn Plaza
>>>
>>> Suite 701
>>>
>>> New York, NY 10121
>>>
>>> 212-626-0573
>>>
>>> greenberg@acm.org
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

From perlman@turing.acm.org Fri Nov  9 11:27:33 2012 -0500
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 11:27:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Gary PERLMAN <perlman@turing.acm.org>
To: Adam Greenberg <greenberg@hq.acm.org>
Subject: RE: issues with the hcibib.org website
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Works! Thanks.

On Fri, 9 Nov 2012, Adam Greenberg wrote:

> Hi Gary,
> Can you try it now?  It looks like it's working to me.
>
> Thanks
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary PERLMAN [mailto:perlman@turing.acm.org]
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:20 AM
> To: Adam Greenberg
> Cc: Adam Greenberg; Ken Bauer
> Subject: RE: issues with the hcibib.org website
>
> Thanks Adam,
>
> bibtoc is correctly displaying its maintenance message, and the site it there, but a link directly to my preferred short form:
> 	http://hcibib.org
> goes to the Turing award page. Could you please direct it to the HCI Bibliography?
>
> I'll get to fixing the issues this morning.
>
> Gary
>
> On Fri, 9 Nov 2012, Adam Greenberg wrote:
>
>> Hi Gary,
>> I put the site back online. Please let me know when you have fixed the issues.
>>
>> I will get new space defined for you in our new environment and send you the information when it's ready.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Adam
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gary PERLMAN [mailto:perlman@turing.acm.org]
>> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 10:27 PM
>> To: Adam Greenberg
>> Cc: Adam Greenberg; Gary perlman
>> Subject: Re: issues with the hcibib.org website
>>
>> Hi Adam,
>>
>> First let me apoliogize for whatever I might have done.
>> I have modified bibtoc to print a message that it is down for maintenance.
>> Please restore hcibib.org so people can use the rest of the site while I explore problems with bibtoc.
>>
>> I think that some users found a way to ask for the combined tables of contents of over 1000 conferences and journal volumes, and I think that could be the source of the huge cpu utilization.
>> 	2012-11-08 16:34:09 bibdata/
>> 	2012-11-08 16:43:12 bibdata/
>> 	2012-11-08 22:09:43 bibdata/
>> It will be easy to put in a fix to make sure that even if bibtoc is asked for something ridiculous, it won't try to do it.
>>
>> As for moving hcibib.org to a new host, I see no problem other than the usual need to change a few (I hope) hard-coded filenames and making sure that all the programs I use are available. I use:
>> 	ksh (but I can get by with bash, if I can't get ksh)
>> 	rcs
>> 	perl
>> and after that, I think I am using ordinary linux/unix utilities.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> On Thu, 8 Nov 2012, Adam Greenberg wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Gary,
>>>
>>> Over the past 2 days we starting having issues with the apache
>>> servers running on the turing.acm.org server.  We are seeing the program ?bibtoc?
>>> get hit and take up 100% cpu utilization.
>>>
>>> I noticed that the file date on the file and it was changed on Nov 6.
>>> Did you make changes to the programs?  I had to take the site down so
>>> that we could keep all the other websites on turing running.
>>>
>>> Can you please have a look at the programs and let me know when I can
>>> put the website back online.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, we need to work on getting you moved off of this
>>> turing.acm.orgserver and onto our new hosting environment.
>>>
>>> This message is coming from a different mailbox because we are having
>>> an issue with our hq.acm.org mail being delayed at the moment.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam Greenberg
>>>
>>> Senior Systems Analyst
>>>
>>> Association for Computing Machinery
>>>
>>> 2 Penn Plaza
>>>
>>> Suite 701
>>>
>>> New York, NY 10121
>>>
>>> 212-626-0573
>>>
>>> greenberg@acm.org
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

From perlman@turing.acm.org Fri Nov  9 11:41:42 2012 -0500
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 11:41:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Gary PERLMAN <perlman@turing.acm.org>
To: Adam Greenberg <greenberg@hq.acm.org>
cc: Adam Greenberg <greenberg@member.acm.org>, Ken Bauer <kenbauer@acm.org>
Subject: RE: issues with the hcibib.org website
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On Fri, 9 Nov 2012, Adam Greenberg wrote:

Nice! This could reduce the robot traffic a lot. Thanks.

User-agent: *
Disallow: /bs.cgi      # search service
Disallow: /search      # rewritten to bs.cgi
Disallow: /bibdata/    # raw data files
Disallow: /ftp/        # symlink to raw data files
Disallow: /accessibility/chaccess.cgi

> Yes if you put that in the robots.txt file that will work.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary PERLMAN [mailto:perlman@turing.acm.org]
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 11:27 AM
> To: Adam Greenberg
> Cc: Adam Greenberg; Ken Bauer
> Subject: RE: issues with the hcibib.org website
>
> I don't want bs.cgi indexed or followed. Robots will find this in the output:
> 	<meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" /> but it would be better to simply not fetch them at all. Would this work?
> 	Disallow: /bs.cgi
> In contrast, I do want bibtoc to be indexed, but not followed, so it shows:
> 	<meta name="robots" content="index,nofollow" />
>
> On Fri, 9 Nov 2012, Adam Greenberg wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Should bingbot be crawling hcibib.org  running queries like this?
>>
>> 157.56.93.194 - - [09/Nov/2012:10:45:00 -0500] "GET /search:tocauthor=Bhatti_A HTTP/1.1" 200 15970 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm)"
>> 157.55.34.32 - - [09/Nov/2012:10:45:01 -0500] "GET /bs.cgi?searchtype=hotauthor&numrecs=25&sortkey=byDate&highlight=checked&form=line&facetsize=10&format=full&fullquery=+Flach%5FJ%2A+%2828%29+%2F+&query=hendrick_h* HTTP/1.1" 200 87757 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm)"
>>
>> Does the robots.txt file need to be tweaked?
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gary PERLMAN [mailto:perlman@turing.acm.org]
>> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:20 AM
>> To: Adam Greenberg
>> Cc: Adam Greenberg; Ken Bauer
>> Subject: RE: issues with the hcibib.org website
>>
>> Thanks Adam,
>>
>> bibtoc is correctly displaying its maintenance message, and the site it there, but a link directly to my preferred short form:
>> 	http://hcibib.org
>> goes to the Turing award page. Could you please direct it to the HCI Bibliography?
>>
>> I'll get to fixing the issues this morning.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2012, Adam Greenberg wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Gary,
>>> I put the site back online. Please let me know when you have fixed the issues.
>>>
>>> I will get new space defined for you in our new environment and send you the information when it's ready.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Gary PERLMAN [mailto:perlman@turing.acm.org]
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 10:27 PM
>>> To: Adam Greenberg
>>> Cc: Adam Greenberg; Gary perlman
>>> Subject: Re: issues with the hcibib.org website
>>>
>>> Hi Adam,
>>>
>>> First let me apoliogize for whatever I might have done.
>>> I have modified bibtoc to print a message that it is down for maintenance.
>>> Please restore hcibib.org so people can use the rest of the site while I explore problems with bibtoc.
>>>
>>> I think that some users found a way to ask for the combined tables of contents of over 1000 conferences and journal volumes, and I think that could be the source of the huge cpu utilization.
>>> 	2012-11-08 16:34:09 bibdata/
>>> 	2012-11-08 16:43:12 bibdata/
>>> 	2012-11-08 22:09:43 bibdata/
>>> It will be easy to put in a fix to make sure that even if bibtoc is asked for something ridiculous, it won't try to do it.
>>>
>>> As for moving hcibib.org to a new host, I see no problem other than the usual need to change a few (I hope) hard-coded filenames and making sure that all the programs I use are available. I use:
>>> 	ksh (but I can get by with bash, if I can't get ksh)
>>> 	rcs
>>> 	perl
>>> and after that, I think I am using ordinary linux/unix utilities.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> On Thu, 8 Nov 2012, Adam Greenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Gary,
>>>>
>>>> Over the past 2 days we starting having issues with the apache
>>>> servers running on the turing.acm.org server.  We are seeing the program ?bibtoc?
>>>> get hit and take up 100% cpu utilization.
>>>>
>>>> I noticed that the file date on the file and it was changed on Nov 6.
>>>> Did you make changes to the programs?  I had to take the site down
>>>> so that we could keep all the other websites on turing running.
>>>>
>>>> Can you please have a look at the programs and let me know when I
>>>> can put the website back online.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also, we need to work on getting you moved off of this
>>>> turing.acm.orgserver and onto our new hosting environment.
>>>>
>>>> This message is coming from a different mailbox because we are
>>>> having an issue with our hq.acm.org mail being delayed at the moment.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Adam Greenberg
>>>>
>>>> Senior Systems Analyst
>>>>
>>>> Association for Computing Machinery
>>>>
>>>> 2 Penn Plaza
>>>>
>>>> Suite 701
>>>>
>>>> New York, NY 10121
>>>>
>>>> 212-626-0573
>>>>
>>>> greenberg@acm.org
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

From perlman@turing.acm.org Fri Nov  9 13:38:19 2012 -0500
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 13:38:19 -0500 (EST)
From: Gary PERLMAN <perlman@turing.acm.org>
To: Adam Greenberg <greenberg@hq.acm.org>
cc: Adam Greenberg <greenberg@member.acm.org>, Ken Bauer <kenbauer@acm.org>
Subject: RE: issues with the hcibib.org website
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I have installed a fix. bibtoc should never again try to display everything in one call.

I'll be intertested to see what the search logs for bs.cgi look like with the new robots.txt.

Thanks for all your help, and once again, my apologies.

Gary

On Fri, 9 Nov 2012, Adam Greenberg wrote:

> Hi Gary,
> I put the site back online. Please let me know when you have fixed the issues.
>
> I will get new space defined for you in our new environment and send you the information when it's ready.
>
> Thanks
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary PERLMAN [mailto:perlman@turing.acm.org]
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 10:27 PM
> To: Adam Greenberg
> Cc: Adam Greenberg; Gary perlman
> Subject: Re: issues with the hcibib.org website
>
> Hi Adam,
>
> First let me apoliogize for whatever I might have done.
> I have modified bibtoc to print a message that it is down for maintenance.
> Please restore hcibib.org so people can use the rest of the site while I explore problems with bibtoc.
>
> I think that some users found a way to ask for the combined tables of contents of over 1000 conferences and journal volumes, and I think that could be the source of the huge cpu utilization.
> 	2012-11-08 16:34:09 bibdata/
> 	2012-11-08 16:43:12 bibdata/
> 	2012-11-08 22:09:43 bibdata/
> It will be easy to put in a fix to make sure that even if bibtoc is asked for something ridiculous, it won't try to do it.
>
> As for moving hcibib.org to a new host, I see no problem other than the usual need to change a few (I hope) hard-coded filenames and making sure that all the programs I use are available. I use:
> 	ksh (but I can get by with bash, if I can't get ksh)
> 	rcs
> 	perl
> and after that, I think I am using ordinary linux/unix utilities.
>
> Gary
>
> On Thu, 8 Nov 2012, Adam Greenberg wrote:
>
>> Hello Gary,
>>
>> Over the past 2 days we starting having issues with the apache servers
>> running on the turing.acm.org server.  We are seeing the program ?bibtoc?
>> get hit and take up 100% cpu utilization.
>>
>> I noticed that the file date on the file and it was changed on Nov 6.
>> Did you make changes to the programs?  I had to take the site down so
>> that we could keep all the other websites on turing running.
>>
>> Can you please have a look at the programs and let me know when I can
>> put the website back online.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, we need to work on getting you moved off of this
>> turing.acm.orgserver and onto our new hosting environment.
>>
>> This message is coming from a different mailbox because we are having
>> an issue with our hq.acm.org mail being delayed at the moment.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam Greenberg
>>
>> Senior Systems Analyst
>>
>> Association for Computing Machinery
>>
>> 2 Penn Plaza
>>
>> Suite 701
>>
>> New York, NY 10121
>>
>> 212-626-0573
>>
>> greenberg@acm.org
>>
>
>
>

From perlman@turing.acm.org Sat Nov 10 18:15:36 2012 -0500
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 18:15:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Gary PERLMAN <perlman@turing.acm.org>
To: Paul Yu-Chun Chang <Y.Chang@campus.lmu.de>
Subject: Re: Requesting |STAT package
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Thank you for your interest in |STAT data manipulation and analysis software.

UNIX |STAT for is now (only) available via Web browsers at a secret location.
 	http://www.hcibib.org/stat/xyzzy/

To obtain UNIX |STAT files, please follow the instructions at:
 	http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/#access
There are installation notes (e.g., for Mac OS X and Linux) at:
 	http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/installation.txt

DOS |STAT executables and documentation are available as a WinZip file:
 	http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/DOS-STAT.ZIP

HTML documentation is available from the |STAT home page:
 	http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/

On Sat, 10 Nov 2012, Paul Yu-Chun Chang wrote:

> Dear Dr. Perlman,
>
> This is Yu-Chun Chang, a PhD student at Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität
> München. Since I'm trying to run a simple self-paced reading tasking on
> Linger, I'm just wondering if I might request an access to the |STAT
> package.
>
> I AGREE TO ADHERE TO THE CONDITIONS OF USING |STAT.
> I AGREE NOT TO SHARE THE |STAT LOCATION WITH OTHERS.
>
> Thank you sincerely and best regards,
>
> Yu-Chun Chang
>
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From perlman@turing.acm.org Tue Nov 13 13:33:32 2012 -0500
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:33:32 -0500 (EST)
From: Gary PERLMAN <perlman@turing.acm.org>
To: HCI Webliography <apache@turing.acm.org>
cc: director@hcibib.org, onlinesociety.org@gmail.com
Subject: Re: !SUGGEST_a_LINK! intercultural:resources: OnlineSociety.org -
 Language Education
In-Reply-To: <201211090839.qA98dMid004068@turing.acm.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1211131333210.11531@turing.acm.org>
References: <201211090839.qA98dMid004068@turing.acm.org>
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I am sorry, but the site below does not have specific HCI
content and will not be included in the HCI Bibliography.
 	http://hcibib.org/faq.html#Data-5

Gary Perlman, Director, HCI Bibliography Project
mailto:director@hcibib.org  http://hcibib.org/

On Fri, 9 Nov 2012, HCI Webliography wrote:

> Reply-To: director@hcibib.org
>
> This data is being sent to director@hcibib.org
> to be considered for inclusion in the HCI Bibliography
>
> %M U.onlinesociety.org   122.166.47.217
> %0 INTERNET
> %D 2012-11-09
> %K intercultural:resources intercultural:translation
> %A Chris Watney
> %K Language Education, Online Society, Web Directory
> %L English
> %T OnlineSociety.org - Language Education
> %U onlinesociety.org@gmail.com
> %W http://www.onlinesociety.org/Education/Language_Education/
> %X Provides quality list of website resources related to language education.
> %Y Language Education
>        Home: Language Education
>    Arabic Language
>        Links Sort by: Hits | Alphabetical
>
> Information from this tool may also be used for your entry:
> http://hcibib.org/accessibility/chaccess.cgi?url=http://www.onlinesociety.org/Education/Language_Education/
>

From perlman@turing.acm.org Tue Nov 13 13:34:51 2012 -0500
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:34:51 -0500 (EST)
From: Gary PERLMAN <perlman@turing.acm.org>
To: HCI Webliography <apache@turing.acm.org>
cc: darkwingstalker@gmail.com, director@hcibib.org
Subject: Re: !SUGGEST_a_LINK! intercultural:companies: Linguarama language
 training
In-Reply-To: <201211131105.qADB5MZh022787@turing.acm.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1211131334400.11531@turing.acm.org>
References: <201211131105.qADB5MZh022787@turing.acm.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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I am sorry, but the site below does not have specific HCI
content and will not be included in the HCI Bibliography.
 	http://hcibib.org/faq.html#Data-5

Gary Perlman, Director, HCI Bibliography Project
mailto:director@hcibib.org  http://hcibib.org/

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012, HCI Webliography wrote:

> Reply-To: director@hcibib.org
> From: darkwingstalker@gmail.com (Jake Tucker)
> Sender: darkwingstalker@gmail.com
>
> This data is being sent to director@hcibib.org
> to be considered for inclusion in the HCI Bibliography
>
> %M U.linguarama.com darkwingstalker@gmail.com Jake Tucker 86.169.106.224
> %0 INTERNET
> %D 2012-11-13
> %K intercultural:companies intercultural:translation
> %T Linguarama language training
> %W http://www.linguarama.com
> %X Linguarama is a language training company operating at various sites around Europe.
>
> Information from this tool may also be used for your entry:
> http://hcibib.org/accessibility/chaccess.cgi?url=http://www.linguarama.com
>

From perlman@turing.acm.org Wed Nov 14 12:31:26 2012 -0500
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:31:24 -0500 (EST)
From: Gary PERLMAN <perlman@turing.acm.org>
To: Rachel Higgins <rachelhiggins27@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Suggestion Regarding Resources For Prospective Students
In-Reply-To: <CALdrUGfS1ecfJ1P8y-xkHjYg+kaGig-O0G9=+UKzv+Jp9DisDw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1211141229580.18808@turing.acm.org>
References: <4V0SCNW1-0PF6-JMSM-JCI-N5E7DAXPA65P@gmail.com>
 <Pine.LNX.4.64.1210151635010.5329@turing.acm.org>
 <CALdrUGfS1ecfJ1P8y-xkHjYg+kaGig-O0G9=+UKzv+Jp9DisDw@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Rachel,

I don't see a link from you, and since I don't have nay other information
about the link, I can't tell if it was received.

Gary Perlman, Director, HCI Bibliography Project
mailto:director@hcibib.org  http://hcibib.org/

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012, Rachel Higgins wrote:

> Hi Gary,
>
> Thank you so much for the information and I apologize for how long it has
> taken me to get back to you.  I just wanted to let you know that I have
> submitted the link.  What are the next steps from here?
>
> I look forward to hearing from you soon.
>
> Best,
> Rachel
>
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Gary PERLMAN <perlman@turing.acm.org>wrote:
>
>> There is a form to suggest links here:
>>
>> http://hcibib.org/education/#**RESOURCES<http://hcibib.org/education/#RESOURCES>
>>
>> Gary Perlman, Director, HCI Bibliography Project
>> mailto:director@hcibib.org  http://hcibib.org/
>>
>> On Sun, 14 Oct 2012, Rachel Higgins wrote:
>>
>>  Hi there,
>>>
>>> I happened upon your collection of college and career web resources for
>>> prospective students here hcibib.org/education/ and thought you might be
>>> interested in another authoritative online resource to add to those.
>>>
>>> Are you the correct person to contact for having resources added as an
>>> additional link on this page? If not, could you please direct me to the
>>> right individual?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your time. I hope to hear from you soon!
>>> Rachel Higgins
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

From perlman@turing.acm.org Sat Nov 17 14:16:59 2012 -0500
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:16:58 -0500 (EST)
From: Gary PERLMAN <perlman@turing.acm.org>
To: Bruce Graham <info@wilfredos.co.za>
Subject: Re: Fwd: |STAT request
In-Reply-To: <CAFVebRpXGHWMyz5DjKTk1KsjwsWmnssb_jgWeddt0J7iz=0yNQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1211171416530.27016@turing.acm.org>
References: <CAFVebRrb-x26vNoMj7Hft0vpi+S4dU7WYrXo79RV6N6zVZ-M4A@mail.gmail.com>
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Thank you for your interest in |STAT data manipulation and analysis software.

UNIX |STAT for is now (only) available via Web browsers at a secret location.
 	http://www.hcibib.org/stat/xyzzy/

To obtain UNIX |STAT files, please follow the instructions at:
 	http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/#access
There are installation notes (e.g., for Mac OS X and Linux) at:
 	http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/installation.txt

DOS |STAT executables and documentation are available as a WinZip file:
 	http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/DOS-STAT.ZIP

HTML documentation is available from the |STAT home page:
 	http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/

On Sat, 17 Nov 2012, Bruce Graham wrote:

>   I AGREE TO ADHERE TO THE CONDITIONS OF USING |STAT.
>   I AGREE NOT TO SHARE THE |STAT LOCATION WITH OTHERS.
>
>
> Hi, I am a statistical hobbyist in South Africa. I have been using FreeBSD
> and Linux for years and I ask you really kindly if I can have the license
> key and url to further the download of |STAT on FreeBSD9. I find the piping
> of data intriguing and think what you have done is ingenious. I have tried
> before to get this license but to no avail. Is there a reason?
> Kind regards,
> Bruce Graham
> 22 Flamingo Drive
> Kommetije
> Cape Town.
>

From perlman@turing.acm.org Sat Nov 17 14:17:31 2012 -0500
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:17:25 -0500 (EST)
From: Gary PERLMAN <perlman@turing.acm.org>
To: Leendert van der Miesen <leendert.vandermiesen@student.uva.nl>
Subject: Re: |STAT
In-Reply-To: <CAPgNuv+BO1N+apt+_zj4=45v0oZcxUTMxXvQ90y6=gLZb3rPqg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1211171417210.27016@turing.acm.org>
References: <CAPgNuv+BO1N+apt+_zj4=45v0oZcxUTMxXvQ90y6=gLZb3rPqg@mail.gmail.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Thank you for your interest in |STAT data manipulation and analysis software.

UNIX |STAT for is now (only) available via Web browsers at a secret location.
 	http://www.hcibib.org/stat/xyzzy/

To obtain UNIX |STAT files, please follow the instructions at:
 	http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/#access
There are installation notes (e.g., for Mac OS X and Linux) at:
 	http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/installation.txt

DOS |STAT executables and documentation are available as a WinZip file:
 	http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/DOS-STAT.ZIP

HTML documentation is available from the |STAT home page:
 	http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/

On Sat, 17 Nov 2012, Leendert van der Miesen wrote:

> I AGREE TO ADHERE TO THE CONDITIONS OF USING |STAT.
> I AGREE NOT TO SHARE THE |STAT LOCATION WITH OTHERS.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Leendert van der Miesen
>

From perlman@turing.acm.org Sat Nov 17 14:19:18 2012 -0500
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:19:18 -0500 (EST)
From: Gary PERLMAN <perlman@turing.acm.org>
To: HCI Webliography <apache@turing.acm.org>
cc: director@hcibib.org, steve@thelanguagebanc.com
Subject: Re: !SUGGEST_a_LINK! intercultural:translation: Interpreting Services
 | Translation Services | Language Training
In-Reply-To: <201211171909.qAHJ9T16024064@turing.acm.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1211171419080.27016@turing.acm.org>
References: <201211171909.qAHJ9T16024064@turing.acm.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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I am sorry, but the site below does not have specific HCI
content and will not be included in the HCI Bibliography.
 	http://hcibib.org/faq.html#Data-5

Gary Perlman, Director, HCI Bibliography Project
mailto:director@hcibib.org  http://hcibib.org/

On Sat, 17 Nov 2012, HCI Webliography wrote:

> Reply-To: director@hcibib.org
>
> This data is being sent to director@hcibib.org
> to be considered for inclusion in the HCI Bibliography
>
> %M U.thelanguagebanc.com   107.2.82.176
> %0 INTERNET
> %D 2012-11-17
> %K intercultural:translation
> %A Steve Halvorson
> %I The Language Banc
> %L English
> %T Interpreting Services | Translation Services | Language Training
> %U steve@thelanguagebanc.com
> %W http://www.thelanguagebanc.com
> %X The Language Banc is a professional firm offering interpreting services, translation services, and language training. Interpreters available 24/7.
> %Y     Industries Served
>        - Healthcare
>        - Education
>        - Manufacturing
>        - Legal and Judiciary
>        - International Business
>        - Insurance
>        - Government
>        - Financial Institutions
>
> Information from this tool may also be used for your entry:
> http://hcibib.org/accessibility/chaccess.cgi?url=http://www.thelanguagebanc.com
>

From perlman@turing.acm.org Tue Nov 20 15:32:12 2012 -0500
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:32:12 -0500 (EST)
From: Gary PERLMAN <perlman@turing.acm.org>
To: =?utf-8?Q?Adam=20at=20UIE?= <jared.m.spool@uie.com>
Subject: Re: =?utf-8?Q?Nov.=2020th=20=2D=20Accessibility=20as=20a=20Design=20Tool?=
In-Reply-To: <177759e271d0a2787093812a000985206fe.20121120195651@mail334.us3.mcdlv.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1211201531100.5946@turing.acm.org>
References: <177759e271d0a2787093812a000985206fe.20121120195651@mail334.us3.mcdlv.net>
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Oh, the irony...

Derek Featherstone teaches you how to incorporate accessibility in your design process.
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everyday. And he&rsquo;s going to show you how beautiful, inexpensive, and user-experience-driven
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From perlman@turing.acm.org Wed Nov 21 12:26:29 2012 -0500
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 12:26:28 -0500 (EST)
From: Gary PERLMAN <perlman@turing.acm.org>
To: Ryan Noll <rnoll@bubbaboy.net>
Subject: Re: |STAT request
In-Reply-To: <000001cdc7a0$f6bcb730$e4362590$@bubbaboy.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1211211226250.32497@turing.acm.org>
References: <000001cdc7a0$f6bcb730$e4362590$@bubbaboy.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
Status: O
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Thank you for your interest in |STAT data manipulation and analysis software.

UNIX |STAT for is now (only) available via Web browsers at a secret location.
 	http://www.hcibib.org/stat/xyzzy/

To obtain UNIX |STAT files, please follow the instructions at:
 	http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/#access
There are installation notes (e.g., for Mac OS X and Linux) at:
 	http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/installation.txt

DOS |STAT executables and documentation are available as a WinZip file:
 	http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/DOS-STAT.ZIP

HTML documentation is available from the |STAT home page:
 	http://www.acm.org/perlman/stat/

On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Ryan Noll wrote:

> Hello,
>
>   I AGREE TO ADHERE TO THE CONDITIONS OF USING |STAT.
>   I AGREE NOT TO SHARE THE |STAT LOCATION WITH OTHERS.
>
> v/r,
> Ryan Noll
>
>

From perlman@turing.acm.org Thu Nov 29 11:55:30 2012 -0500
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:55:29 -0500 (EST)
From: Gary PERLMAN <perlman@turing.acm.org>
To: tom.reeve@onlineventuresgroup.co.uk
cc: Adam Greenberg <greenberg@hq.acm.org>, kate@highposition.net
Subject: Re: FW: Link Removal Requests
In-Reply-To: <B54E26FE02C1F745B821E7532673BA133EB0C4F8@CH1PRD0510MB381.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1211291138420.4060@turing.acm.org>
References: <CAD4gUrwOvazOjANjQNi3Yce1G5YSiog9qm4XZOq0g7AcEJf9dA@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi,

The link IS appropriate to that page because of the website and software localisation
service provided. I noticed that the submission has an email of kate@highposition.net,
which makes the submission look like an SEO effort. Regardless, the link is relevant.
I am sending a copy to the submitter.

I do not have a policy for a third party request to remove a relevant link. I would
prefer to receive such a request from thetranslationpeople.com. After I have verified
the link as relevant, you may not want the link removed.

I do not think that a link from hcibib.org would hurt a website, but I am ignorant of
most of google's policies.
 	http://www.statmyweb.com/site/hcibib.org

Best wishes,

Gary Perlman, Director, HCI Bibliography Project
mailto:director@hcibib.org  http://hcibib.org/

On Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Adam Greenberg wrote:

> From: Thomas Reeve [mailto:tom.reeve@onlineventuresgroup.co.uk]
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 6:36 AM
> To: greenberg@acm.org
> Subject: Link Removal Requests
>
> Good Morning,
>
> Hopefully you can help me, I'm working with a business that currently has a link to their website on your website.
>
> We appreciate that these links were likely implemented with good intentions, however our client's website has incurred a penalty from Google and I have been assigned the task of cleaning up any links which may be deemed as irrelevant or unnecessary and having the Google penalty removed.
>
> Would it be possible for you to remove any links pointing towards thetranslationpeople.com<http://thetranslationpeople.com> from the following links on your domain?
>
> http://www.hcibib.org/intercultural/
>
> Could you please also send me an confirmation email once you remove the link? Thank you for taking the time to help.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> --
>
> Thomas Reeve
> Online Marketing Executive
>
> Phone: 0844 871 7291
> tom.reeve@onlineventuresgroup.co.uk<mailto:olivia.davies@onlineventuresgroup.co.uk>
>
> Online Ventures Ltd is a company registered in England and Wales. Registered Office: 86 King Street, Manchester, UK, M2 4WQ. Company Number: 07675041
>
> Standard Disclaimer
>
> This message is confidential. You should not copy it or disclose its contents to anyone. You may use and apply the information only for the intended purpose. Internet communications are not secure and therefore Online Ventures LTD does not accept legal responsibility for the content of this message. Any views or opinions presented are only those of the author and not those of Online Ventures LTD. If the e-mail has come to you in error please delete it and any attachments. Please note that Online Ventures LTD may intercept incoming and outgoing e-mail communications.

From perlman@turing.acm.org Fri Nov 30 16:08:42 2012 -0500
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 16:08:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Gary PERLMAN <perlman@turing.acm.org>
To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kaj_Gr=F8nb=E6k?= <kgronbak@cs.au.dk>
cc: "director@hcibib.org" <director@hcibib.org>
Subject: Re: OZCHI2004 seems to be missing in HCIBIB
In-Reply-To: <A0F9D2518A1DD4469F2BF8B6CAF32265DAAF48@SRVUNIMBX08.uni.au.dk>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1211301550170.27365@turing.acm.org>
References: <A0F9D2518A1DD4469F2BF8B6CAF32265DAAF48@SRVUNIMBX08.uni.au.dk>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Thanks, Kaj,

I also see pieces of OZCHI 2001-2003. I'll get to them later, but I have loaded 2004.

Those orange links should be banned. I think it was the first time I had to set my browser to ignore the colors.

Best wishes,

Gary

On Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Kaj Grønbæk wrote:

> Dear HCIBIB,
>
> You have most of the OZCHI proceedings indexed, but it seems that 2004 is missing.
>
> Here is the link to the proceedings: http://www.ozchi.org/proceedings/2004/
>
> Best regards
>
> Kaj Grønbæk
>
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