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Good Morning Dr. Perlman,

	I received your name from Dr. Gary Klatsky who is a member of the Steering
Committee for the development of our new Masters Program in HCI.  We would be
very interested in enlisting your services as a consultant to our program.  We
are in the initial stages of development at present, and would like some
assistance in creating the best program possible.  

	If you would be willing to take on the consultant role for this process, we
would be greatly appreciative.  Could you let me know 
1) if you would be willing to be our consultant,  2) what the costs associated
with the would be, and 3) when you would be available?

	Thank you so much.  I look forward to hearing from you.

												Yours truly,
												Rhonda Mandel
												Associate Provost

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> 
> Good Morning Dr. Perlman,
> 
> 	I received your name from Dr. Gary Klatsky who is a member of the Steering
> Committee for the development of our new Masters Program in HCI.  We would be
> very interested in enlisting your services as a consultant to our program.  We
> are in the initial stages of development at present, and would like some
> assistance in creating the best program possible.  
> 
> 	If you would be willing to take on the consultant role for this process, we
> would be greatly appreciative.  Could you let me know 
> 1) if you would be willing to be our consultant,  2) what the costs associated
> with the would be, and 3) when you would be available?
> 
> 	Thank you so much.  I look forward to hearing from you.
> 
> 												Yours truly,
> 												Rhonda Mandel
> 												Associate Provost
> 

Dear Dr. Mandel,

Although I am still unsure if I am the best choice,
I am willing to serve, depending on what it involves.
My main other criteria are time and travel.

I think I can easily allocate 20 hours to reading,
but would need to do more serious planning for over 40.
I think I can easily handle 3-4 days of travel in one trip,
but two or more would need to work into other schedules.
I would be happy not travelling at all, but I do not know
your plans.

As for costs, I would expect you to play any travel and lodging.
I would not require any consulting fees or honorarium.

I am a graduate of the University of Rochester,
and, having grown up in Montreal, actually know
where Oswego is.  In addition, my wife attended
Cornell.  So I will be wary of winter travel.
Can we do this work in November?  I have some
commitments in mid-November, and Thanksgiving
is probably impractical.

Gary Perlman

From perlman Tue Sep 26 12:43:38 2000
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I am honored to be asked and willing to help,
but I do not know if I am the most appropriate
person to be involved.  Although I was in the
SIGCHI Curriculum Development Group, and SIGCHI
adjunct chair for education, and gave a few
HCI education tutorials, all that was over five
years ago, and I have been out of academia for
four years (more, virtually).

Maybe the SIGCHI executive committee could suggest
someone who has been more active more recently.

Gary

> Hi Gary
> 
> We at SUNY Oswego are planning to develop a Masters program in HCI. In fact
> we just received money from SUNY central to proceed. As part of the
> planning, we have decided to bring in a consultant to evaluate our
> strengths/weaknesses and provide advice on the program development.  I
> wanted to let you know that I recommended you and expect that you will be
> contacted in the next week or so.  I thought that with your experience with
> SIGCHI you would be able to provide the guidance the program is seeking.
> 
> A little about the program. This will be an  interdisciplinary program
> primarily between Computer Science and Psychology.   We are also trying to
> get the Graphics Arts dept to participate as well.  As currently envisioned
> the program is 36 hours pretty much evenly split between psychology and CS
> courses. We are also looking for corporate involvement in the program by
> establishing an advisory board that would include representatives from
> industry.  I've already received positive responses from Kodak, Xerox and
> IBM.
> 
> Let me know if you have any questions or if you wouldn't be able to
> participate.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> 
> Gary J. Klatsky, Ph.D.
> Department of Psychology		klatsky@oswego.edu
> Oswego State University of NY		http://www.oswego.edu/~klatsky
> Oswego, NY 13126			Voice: (315) 312 3474
> 
> 
> 


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Dear Dr. Perlman,

	Thank you so much for responding.  We are looking for you to do some reading
of documents, and attend campus for a two-day visit.  We are an
interdisciplinary committee of faculty from psychology and computer science
(and some administrators there for support!)  Our plan is to pick your brains
on how to develop the strongest program possible within the confines in which
we work.

	We would like you to, following your visit, provide us with an   overview of
where we stand, the validity of the path that we have laid out for ourselves, 
and guidance in modifying that path given the real state of the world with
respect to this sort of effort. We would need a document that would help us in
supporting our efforts for funding and assistance from SUNY Central
Administration and other sources (grants, foundations, corporate).  Any
assistance in this area would be helpful.

	Would you be available in early December?  i think our weather is not quite
as bad as you may have heard, at least not usually until January!  (knock
wood)  We would like you have you work with our committee, and tour our campus
and facilities.

	Thank you for time and energy.  We are very excited about our effort and the
support we are receiving from Central Administration.

											Rhonda Mandel
											Associate Provost

Gary PERLMAN wrote:
> 
> >
> > Good Morning Dr. Perlman,
> >
> >       I received your name from Dr. Gary Klatsky who is a member of the Steering
> > Committee for the development of our new Masters Program in HCI.  We would be
> > very interested in enlisting your services as a consultant to our program.  We
> > are in the initial stages of development at present, and would like some
> > assistance in creating the best program possible.
> >
> >       If you would be willing to take on the consultant role for this process, we
> > would be greatly appreciative.  Could you let me know
> > 1) if you would be willing to be our consultant,  2) what the costs associated
> > with the would be, and 3) when you would be available?
> >
> >       Thank you so much.  I look forward to hearing from you.
> >
> >                                                                                               Yours truly,
> >                                                                                               Rhonda Mandel
> >                                                                                               Associate Provost
> >
> 
> Dear Dr. Mandel,
> 
> Although I am still unsure if I am the best choice,
> I am willing to serve, depending on what it involves.
> My main other criteria are time and travel.
> 
> I think I can easily allocate 20 hours to reading,
> but would need to do more serious planning for over 40.
> I think I can easily handle 3-4 days of travel in one trip,
> but two or more would need to work into other schedules.
> I would be happy not travelling at all, but I do not know
> your plans.
> 
> As for costs, I would expect you to play any travel and lodging.
> I would not require any consulting fees or honorarium.
> 
> I am a graduate of the University of Rochester,
> and, having grown up in Montreal, actually know
> where Oswego is.  In addition, my wife attended
> Cornell.  So I will be wary of winter travel.
> Can we do this work in November?  I have some
> commitments in mid-November, and Thanksgiving
> is probably impractical.
> 
> Gary Perlman

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Hi Dr. Perlman,

	Dec. 7-8 would work out great.  let me know what your travel arrangements
are.  The closest airport is Syracuse International.  I look forward to
meeting you.  

	We will send you all the materials to read as soon as possible.

	Thank you.


        									Rhonda Mandel

Gary PERLMAN wrote:
> 
> How about
>         M-T Dec 4-5
> or
>         R-F Dec 7-8
> 
> > Dear Dr. Perlman,
> >
> >       Thank you so much for responding.  We are looking for you to do some reading
> > of documents, and attend campus for a two-day visit.  We are an
> > interdisciplinary committee of faculty from psychology and computer science
> > (and some administrators there for support!)  Our plan is to pick your brains
> > on how to develop the strongest program possible within the confines in which
> > we work.
> >
> >       We would like you to, following your visit, provide us with an   overview of
> > where we stand, the validity of the path that we have laid out for ourselves,
> > and guidance in modifying that path given the real state of the world with
> > respect to this sort of effort. We would need a document that would help us in
> > supporting our efforts for funding and assistance from SUNY Central
> > Administration and other sources (grants, foundations, corporate).  Any
> > assistance in this area would be helpful.
> >
> >       Would you be available in early December?  i think our weather is not quite
> > as bad as you may have heard, at least not usually until January!  (knock
> > wood)  We would like you have you work with our committee, and tour our campus
> > and facilities.
> >
> >       Thank you for time and energy.  We are very excited about our effort and the
> > support we are receiving from Central Administration.
> >
> >                                                                                       Rhonda Mandel
> >                                                                                       Associate Provost
> >
> > Gary PERLMAN wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Good Morning Dr. Perlman,
> > > >
> > > >       I received your name from Dr. Gary Klatsky who is a member of the Steering
> > > > Committee for the development of our new Masters Program in HCI.  We would be
> > > > very interested in enlisting your services as a consultant to our program.  We
> > > > are in the initial stages of development at present, and would like some
> > > > assistance in creating the best program possible.
> > > >
> > > >       If you would be willing to take on the consultant role for this process, we
> > > > would be greatly appreciative.  Could you let me know
> > > > 1) if you would be willing to be our consultant,  2) what the costs associated
> > > > with the would be, and 3) when you would be available?
> > > >
> > > >       Thank you so much.  I look forward to hearing from you.
> > > >
> > > >                                                                                               Yours truly,
> > > >                                                                                               Rhonda Mandel
> > > >                                                                                               Associate Provost
> > > >
> > >
> > > Dear Dr. Mandel,
> > >
> > > Although I am still unsure if I am the best choice,
> > > I am willing to serve, depending on what it involves.
> > > My main other criteria are time and travel.
> > >
> > > I think I can easily allocate 20 hours to reading,
> > > but would need to do more serious planning for over 40.
> > > I think I can easily handle 3-4 days of travel in one trip,
> > > but two or more would need to work into other schedules.
> > > I would be happy not travelling at all, but I do not know
> > > your plans.
> > >
> > > As for costs, I would expect you to play any travel and lodging.
> > > I would not require any consulting fees or honorarium.
> > >
> > > I am a graduate of the University of Rochester,
> > > and, having grown up in Montreal, actually know
> > > where Oswego is.  In addition, my wife attended
> > > Cornell.  So I will be wary of winter travel.
> > > Can we do this work in November?  I have some
> > > commitments in mid-November, and Thanksgiving
> > > is probably impractical.
> > >
> > > Gary Perlman
> >

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Looking over flights, I thought I would come in Weds night Dec 6
and rent a car.  Then I'd leave for a Friday flight at 5pm.
Flights are $530-$540.  Do you want me to book and get reimbursed?
I'd prefer things were done at your end, but can go either way.

> Hi Dr. Perlman,
> 
> 	Dec. 7-8 would work out great.  let me know what your travel arrangements
> are.  The closest airport is Syracuse International.  I look forward to
> meeting you.  
> 
> 	We will send you all the materials to read as soon as possible.
> 
> 	Thank you.
> 
> 
>         									Rhonda Mandel
> 
> Gary PERLMAN wrote:
> > 
> > How about
> >         M-T Dec 4-5
> > or
> >         R-F Dec 7-8
> > 
> > > Dear Dr. Perlman,
> > >
> > >       Thank you so much for responding.  We are looking for you to do some reading
> > > of documents, and attend campus for a two-day visit.  We are an
> > > interdisciplinary committee of faculty from psychology and computer science
> > > (and some administrators there for support!)  Our plan is to pick your brains
> > > on how to develop the strongest program possible within the confines in which
> > > we work.
> > >
> > >       We would like you to, following your visit, provide us with an   overview of
> > > where we stand, the validity of the path that we have laid out for ourselves,
> > > and guidance in modifying that path given the real state of the world with
> > > respect to this sort of effort. We would need a document that would help us in
> > > supporting our efforts for funding and assistance from SUNY Central
> > > Administration and other sources (grants, foundations, corporate).  Any
> > > assistance in this area would be helpful.
> > >
> > >       Would you be available in early December?  i think our weather is not quite
> > > as bad as you may have heard, at least not usually until January!  (knock
> > > wood)  We would like you have you work with our committee, and tour our campus
> > > and facilities.
> > >
> > >       Thank you for time and energy.  We are very excited about our effort and the
> > > support we are receiving from Central Administration.
> > >
> > >                                                                                       Rhonda Mandel
> > >                                                                                       Associate Provost
> > >
> > > Gary PERLMAN wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Good Morning Dr. Perlman,
> > > > >
> > > > >       I received your name from Dr. Gary Klatsky who is a member of the Steering
> > > > > Committee for the development of our new Masters Program in HCI.  We would be
> > > > > very interested in enlisting your services as a consultant to our program.  We
> > > > > are in the initial stages of development at present, and would like some
> > > > > assistance in creating the best program possible.
> > > > >
> > > > >       If you would be willing to take on the consultant role for this process, we
> > > > > would be greatly appreciative.  Could you let me know
> > > > > 1) if you would be willing to be our consultant,  2) what the costs associated
> > > > > with the would be, and 3) when you would be available?
> > > > >
> > > > >       Thank you so much.  I look forward to hearing from you.
> > > > >
> > > > >                                                                                               Yours truly,
> > > > >                                                                                               Rhonda Mandel
> > > > >                                                                                               Associate Provost
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Dr. Mandel,
> > > >
> > > > Although I am still unsure if I am the best choice,
> > > > I am willing to serve, depending on what it involves.
> > > > My main other criteria are time and travel.
> > > >
> > > > I think I can easily allocate 20 hours to reading,
> > > > but would need to do more serious planning for over 40.
> > > > I think I can easily handle 3-4 days of travel in one trip,
> > > > but two or more would need to work into other schedules.
> > > > I would be happy not travelling at all, but I do not know
> > > > your plans.
> > > >
> > > > As for costs, I would expect you to play any travel and lodging.
> > > > I would not require any consulting fees or honorarium.
> > > >
> > > > I am a graduate of the University of Rochester,
> > > > and, having grown up in Montreal, actually know
> > > > where Oswego is.  In addition, my wife attended
> > > > Cornell.  So I will be wary of winter travel.
> > > > Can we do this work in November?  I have some
> > > > commitments in mid-November, and Thanksgiving
> > > > is probably impractical.
> > > >
> > > > Gary Perlman
> > >
> 


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To - Gary Perlman

Hi Mr. Perlman.  I work with Rhonda Mandel here at SUNY
Oswego.  She asked me to make contact with you so that we
could work together on making your travel arrangements.  I
understand you will be arriving sometime on December 6 and
returning on December 8.

I just spoke with Nicole at the Canalview Travel Agency here
in Oswego.  I indicated to her that you would be calling to
make your own travel arrangements, but that those charges
should be billed directly to our campus.  Canalview's
telephone number is (315) 342-5221.  Could I ask you to
forward to me your flight information once you have that
confirmed?  I will hold off on making your reservations for
your overnight accommodations until after I have heard from
you regarding your flight arrival/departure times.

Thanks so much.  I look forward to your reply.

Judy Altieri




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Hi-

	My secretary is much better at this stuff than I am.  She will be getting
touch with you directly to work this out.

	Thanks again.

											Rhonda Mandel

Gary PERLMAN wrote:
> 
> Looking over flights, I thought I would come in Weds night Dec 6
> and rent a car.  Then I'd leave for a Friday flight at 5pm.
> Flights are $530-$540.  Do you want me to book and get reimbursed?
> I'd prefer things were done at your end, but can go either way.
> 
> > Hi Dr. Perlman,
> >
> >       Dec. 7-8 would work out great.  let me know what your travel arrangements
> > are.  The closest airport is Syracuse International.  I look forward to
> > meeting you.
> >
> >       We will send you all the materials to read as soon as possible.
> >
> >       Thank you.
> >
> >
> >                                                                               Rhonda Mandel
> >
> > Gary PERLMAN wrote:
> > >
> > > How about
> > >         M-T Dec 4-5
> > > or
> > >         R-F Dec 7-8
> > >
> > > > Dear Dr. Perlman,
> > > >
> > > >       Thank you so much for responding.  We are looking for you to do some reading
> > > > of documents, and attend campus for a two-day visit.  We are an
> > > > interdisciplinary committee of faculty from psychology and computer science
> > > > (and some administrators there for support!)  Our plan is to pick your brains
> > > > on how to develop the strongest program possible within the confines in which
> > > > we work.
> > > >
> > > >       We would like you to, following your visit, provide us with an   overview of
> > > > where we stand, the validity of the path that we have laid out for ourselves,
> > > > and guidance in modifying that path given the real state of the world with
> > > > respect to this sort of effort. We would need a document that would help us in
> > > > supporting our efforts for funding and assistance from SUNY Central
> > > > Administration and other sources (grants, foundations, corporate).  Any
> > > > assistance in this area would be helpful.
> > > >
> > > >       Would you be available in early December?  i think our weather is not quite
> > > > as bad as you may have heard, at least not usually until January!  (knock
> > > > wood)  We would like you have you work with our committee, and tour our campus
> > > > and facilities.
> > > >
> > > >       Thank you for time and energy.  We are very excited about our effort and the
> > > > support we are receiving from Central Administration.
> > > >
> > > >                                                                                       Rhonda Mandel
> > > >                                                                                       Associate Provost
> > > >
> > > > Gary PERLMAN wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Good Morning Dr. Perlman,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >       I received your name from Dr. Gary Klatsky who is a member of the Steering
> > > > > > Committee for the development of our new Masters Program in HCI.  We would be
> > > > > > very interested in enlisting your services as a consultant to our program.  We
> > > > > > are in the initial stages of development at present, and would like some
> > > > > > assistance in creating the best program possible.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >       If you would be willing to take on the consultant role for this process, we
> > > > > > would be greatly appreciative.  Could you let me know
> > > > > > 1) if you would be willing to be our consultant,  2) what the costs associated
> > > > > > with the would be, and 3) when you would be available?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >       Thank you so much.  I look forward to hearing from you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >                                                                                               Yours truly,
> > > > > >                                                                                               Rhonda Mandel
> > > > > >                                                                                               Associate Provost
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Dr. Mandel,
> > > > >
> > > > > Although I am still unsure if I am the best choice,
> > > > > I am willing to serve, depending on what it involves.
> > > > > My main other criteria are time and travel.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think I can easily allocate 20 hours to reading,
> > > > > but would need to do more serious planning for over 40.
> > > > > I think I can easily handle 3-4 days of travel in one trip,
> > > > > but two or more would need to work into other schedules.
> > > > > I would be happy not travelling at all, but I do not know
> > > > > your plans.
> > > > >
> > > > > As for costs, I would expect you to play any travel and lodging.
> > > > > I would not require any consulting fees or honorarium.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am a graduate of the University of Rochester,
> > > > > and, having grown up in Montreal, actually know
> > > > > where Oswego is.  In addition, my wife attended
> > > > > Cornell.  So I will be wary of winter travel.
> > > > > Can we do this work in November?  I have some
> > > > > commitments in mid-November, and Thanksgiving
> > > > > is probably impractical.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gary Perlman
> > > >
> >

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Mr. Perlman -

Now I'm a bit confused.  I take it you haven't made reservations for this flight,
but this is the flight you would prefer, correct?  What does CMH stand for?  Thanks
for getting back to me so promptly.

Judy

Gary PERLMAN wrote:

> I don't quite follow the instructions below.
>
> Here is the flight info for Delta.
> Can or your agent you book these, rental and hotel?
>
> Wed
> 6-Dec-00
> 3hr 10mn  Columbus (CMH)
> Depart 5:15 PM   to   Syracuse (SYR)
> Arrive 8:25 PM
> Flight: 1690 / 890
> Connect in Cincinnati (CVG)
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Fri
> 8-Dec-00
> 3hr 37mn  Syracuse (SYR)
> Depart 5:40 PM   to   Columbus (CMH)
> Arrive 9:17 PM
> Flight: 6004 / 5699
> Connect in Cincinnati (CVG)
>
> > To - Gary Perlman
> >
> > Hi Mr. Perlman.  I work with Rhonda Mandel here at SUNY
> > Oswego.  She asked me to make contact with you so that we
> > could work together on making your travel arrangements.  I
> > understand you will be arriving sometime on December 6 and
> > returning on December 8.
> >
> > I just spoke with Nicole at the Canalview Travel Agency here
> > in Oswego.  I indicated to her that you would be calling to
> > make your own travel arrangements, but that those charges
> > should be billed directly to our campus.  Canalview's
> > telephone number is (315) 342-5221.  Could I ask you to
> > forward to me your flight information once you have that
> > confirmed?  I will hold off on making your reservations for
> > your overnight accommodations until after I have heard from
> > you regarding your flight arrival/departure times.
> >
> > Thanks so much.  I look forward to your reply.
> >
> > Judy Altieri
> >
> >
> >
> >


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Gary -

Per Rhonda's request, I made your overnight accommodation
reservations here on campus in one of the guest rooms in
Sheldon Hall.  This building has recently been renovated and
is listed on the National Registry of Historic Sites.  We
recently found out that this is a smoke-free building; will
that pose a problem for you?  If so, we can surely change
these reservations.

Thanks again.

Judy


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Gary -

With any luck, you should receive your reimbursement check a
month (give or take a few days) from today.  If you think of
it, could you just send me a quick email letting me know you
received it (when you do) so that I can mark the travel as
closed?  Thanks so much.

Judy

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Hi Judy,

Last month I wrote about my travel expenses:
	I dug them out and will be submitting:
		162.27  Dollar Rent a Car
		 36.00  Columbus Parking
	The agency paid for my ticket in advance.

So I was expecting 198.27.  Today, I received a check
for 736.27.
	(736.27 - 198.27) =	538.00
I don't recall the exact number, but $538 seems very close to
the air fare, which I think was paid for by your travel agency.
So unless I am being reimbursed for pain and suffering during
the "event" of my travel to Oswego, I think I have the wrong
amount of reimbursement.

Shall I send the check back to you?  If so, could you please
send me your address again?

I am sorry that you can't mark the travel as closed.

Gary Perlman

On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Judy Altieri wrote:

> Gary -
> 
> With any luck, you should receive your reimbursement check a
> month (give or take a few days) from today.  If you think of
> it, could you just send me a quick email letting me know you
> received it (when you do) so that I can mark the travel as
> closed?  Thanks so much.
> 
> Judy
> 

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Hi Gary.

Thanks for being so honest!

I just got off the phone with Pam, the clerk in our travel
office.  I guess she didn't realize we had purchased your ticket
(although it was clearly marked).  Rather than have you wait
another month for your reimbursement, would you mind sending me a
check for the difference ($538)?  The check should be made payable
to Canalview Travel.

My mailing address is:
SUNY Oswego
703 Culkin Hall
Oswego, NY  13126

The only other way to deal with this is to have you send the check
back and then I'd have to start the process all over again.

Let me know.

thanks
Judy




Gary PERLMAN wrote:

> Hi Judy,
>
> Last month I wrote about my travel expenses:
>         I dug them out and will be submitting:
>                 162.27  Dollar Rent a Car
>                  36.00  Columbus Parking
>         The agency paid for my ticket in advance.
>
> So I was expecting 198.27.  Today, I received a check
> for 736.27.
>         (736.27 - 198.27) =     538.00
> I don't recall the exact number, but $538 seems very close to
> the air fare, which I think was paid for by your travel agency.
> So unless I am being reimbursed for pain and suffering during
> the "event" of my travel to Oswego, I think I have the wrong
> amount of reimbursement.
>
> Shall I send the check back to you?  If so, could you please
> send me your address again?
>
> I am sorry that you can't mark the travel as closed.
>
> Gary Perlman
>
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Judy Altieri wrote:
>
> > Gary -
> >
> > With any luck, you should receive your reimbursement check a
> > month (give or take a few days) from today.  If you think of
> > it, could you just send me a quick email letting me know you
> > received it (when you do) so that I can mark the travel as
> > closed?  Thanks so much.
> >
> > Judy
> >

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Good morning, Judy,

I'll send you a check made out to Canalview Travel for the difference.

Gary

On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Judy Altieri wrote:

> Hi Gary.
> 
> Thanks for being so honest!
> 
> I just got off the phone with Pam, the clerk in our travel
> office.  I guess she didn't realize we had purchased your ticket
> (although it was clearly marked).  Rather than have you wait
> another month for your reimbursement, would you mind sending me a
> check for the difference ($538)?  The check should be made payable
> to Canalview Travel.
> 
> My mailing address is:
> SUNY Oswego
> 703 Culkin Hall
> Oswego, NY  13126
> 
> The only other way to deal with this is to have you send the check
> back and then I'd have to start the process all over again.
> 
> Let me know.
> 
> thanks
> Judy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Gary PERLMAN wrote:
> 
> > Hi Judy,
> >
> > Last month I wrote about my travel expenses:
> >         I dug them out and will be submitting:
> >                 162.27  Dollar Rent a Car
> >                  36.00  Columbus Parking
> >         The agency paid for my ticket in advance.
> >
> > So I was expecting 198.27.  Today, I received a check
> > for 736.27.
> >         (736.27 - 198.27) =     538.00
> > I don't recall the exact number, but $538 seems very close to
> > the air fare, which I think was paid for by your travel agency.
> > So unless I am being reimbursed for pain and suffering during
> > the "event" of my travel to Oswego, I think I have the wrong
> > amount of reimbursement.
> >
> > Shall I send the check back to you?  If so, could you please
> > send me your address again?
> >
> > I am sorry that you can't mark the travel as closed.
> >
> > Gary Perlman
> >
> > On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Judy Altieri wrote:
> >
> > > Gary -
> > >
> > > With any luck, you should receive your reimbursement check a
> > > month (give or take a few days) from today.  If you think of
> > > it, could you just send me a quick email letting me know you
> > > received it (when you do) so that I can mark the travel as
> > > closed?  Thanks so much.
> > >
> > > Judy
> > >
> 

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Hi Gary.

Got the check.  Thanks....we're all set.

Have a great Valentine's Day!

Judy

Gary PERLMAN wrote:

> Good morning, Judy,
>
> I'll send you a check made out to Canalview Travel for the difference.
>
> Gary

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Hello Wayne, and Gary,

Greetings.  I am working with the Computer Science and Psychology
Departments at SUNY Oswego to get our HCI program approved.  Gary has done a
preliminary visit.  We have designed the courses for the program we
proposed.  Both the program and course outlines have been discussed with the
relevant bodies on campus.  We are now authorized by central administration
to bring in two consultants to the campus to do a review.  The two of you
have been approved.  I would like to invite you to the campus and explore
the possibility of visiting on a TUESDAY in March  (except March 25 when we
are on Semester break).  I realize that you guys are very busy and if these
time don't work, perhaps you can give me some that better fit your schedule.

I look forward to hraing from you.


Jack



Jack Narayan
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602 Culkin Hall,SUNY,Oswego,NY 13126.
phone 315-312-3692
fax 315-312-3577

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Hi Wayne, Gary,

As I wrote to Wayne, we will cover travel and give an honorarium  state or
NSF rate.


Gary, Wayne indicated he could do the 3rd Tuesday in March.  Is this ok for
you?  Else we have to look into April.  Please let me know ASAP.

Thanks

Jack Narayan.


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From: "Wayne Gray" <grayw@rpi.edu>
To: "Jack Narayan" <narayan@Oswego.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 11:59 AM
Subject: Re:


> Hiya jack,
>
> I am gone to  Germany for the first two weeks in March. Would be back
> for the 3rd Tuesday -- but I should probably spend at least one or
> two days in my office before heading on the road again.
>
> So -- if we can work out these details, I am willing to talk to you about
this.
>
> BTW: You do not make it clear, but am I being asked to do hard work
> for free or as a consultant? How much hard work? And what sort of
> incentive?
>
> Wayne
>
> >Hello Wayne, and Gary,
> >
> >Greetings.  I am working with the Computer Science and Psychology
> >Departments at SUNY Oswego to get our HCI program approved.  Gary has
done a
> >preliminary visit.  We have designed the courses for the program we
> >proposed.  Both the program and course outlines have been discussed with
the
> >relevant bodies on campus.  We are now authorized by central
administration
> >to bring in two consultants to the campus to do a review.  The two of you
> >have been approved.  I would like to invite you to the campus and explore
> >the possibility of visiting on a TUESDAY in March  (except March 25 when
we
> >are on Semester break).  I realize that you guys are very busy and if
these
> >time don't work, perhaps you can give me some that better fit your
schedule.
> >
> >I look forward to hraing from you.
> >
> >
> >Jack
> >
> >
> >
> >Jack Narayan
> >Dean of Graduate Studies and Research
> >602 Culkin Hall,SUNY,Oswego,NY 13126.
> >phone 315-312-3692
> >fax 315-312-3577
>
>
> --
> **Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**
> Wayne D. Gray; Professor of Cognitive Science
> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
> Carnegie Building (rm 108) ;;for deliveries
> 110 8th St.; Troy, NY 12180
>
> EMAIL: grayw@rpi.edu, Cell: 518-364-9114, Lab: 518-276-6067, Fax:
518-276-8268
>
> for general information see:
> http://www.rpi.edu/~grayw/
>
> for On-Line publications see:
> http://www.rpi.edu/~grayw/pubs/downloadable_pubs.htm
>
> Work is infinite, time is finite, plan accordingly.
>
> **Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**

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I suggest you suggest the first tuesday in april.
I expect travel to be necessary in march.
Or go on a weds.
xoxo
ps I mean, leave columbus tues, return by
thurs morning.

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Jack,

I indicated that I would be gone the first two Tuesday and have 
recently returned from Germany -- basically two days before the third 
tuesday. That is a bit different, than indicating that I am willing 
to turn around and leave family and students before I have time to 
unpack from the last trip!

I have no idea what you are asking me to do. How much time is 
involved, including travel. How much time is needed on campus. How 
much time might be needed for a report or even what sort of report 
might be involved.

So -- I have not yet agreed to any of the particulars. Sorry for not 
being more direct in my original reply. I remain curious. So please 
supply a few more details.


>Hi Wayne, Gary,
>
>As I wrote to Wayne, we will cover travel and give an honorarium  state or
>NSF rate.
>
>
>Gary, Wayne indicated he could do the 3rd Tuesday in March.  Is this ok for
>you?  Else we have to look into April.  Please let me know ASAP.
>
>Thanks
>
>Jack Narayan.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Wayne Gray" <grayw@rpi.edu>
>To: "Jack Narayan" <narayan@Oswego.EDU>
>Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 11:59 AM
>Subject: Re:
>
>
>>  Hiya jack,
>>
>>  I am gone to  Germany for the first two weeks in March. Would be back
>>  for the 3rd Tuesday -- but I should probably spend at least one or
>>  two days in my office before heading on the road again.
>>
>>  So -- if we can work out these details, I am willing to talk to you about
>this.
>>
>>  BTW: You do not make it clear, but am I being asked to do hard work
>>  for free or as a consultant? How much hard work? And what sort of
>>  incentive?
>>
>>  Wayne
>>
>>  >Hello Wayne, and Gary,
>>  >
>>  >Greetings.  I am working with the Computer Science and Psychology
>>  >Departments at SUNY Oswego to get our HCI program approved.  Gary has
>done a
>>  >preliminary visit.  We have designed the courses for the program we
>>  >proposed.  Both the program and course outlines have been discussed with
>the
>>  >relevant bodies on campus.  We are now authorized by central
>administration
>>  >to bring in two consultants to the campus to do a review.  The two of you
>>  >have been approved.  I would like to invite you to the campus and explore
>>  >the possibility of visiting on a TUESDAY in March  (except March 25 when
>we
>>  >are on Semester break).  I realize that you guys are very busy and if
>these
>>  >time don't work, perhaps you can give me some that better fit your
>schedule.
>>  >
>>  >I look forward to hraing from you.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >Jack
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >Jack Narayan
>>  >Dean of Graduate Studies and Research
>>  >602 Culkin Hall,SUNY,Oswego,NY 13126.
>>  >phone 315-312-3692
>>  >fax 315-312-3577
>>
>>
>>  --
>>  **Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**
>>  Wayne D. Gray; Professor of Cognitive Science
>>  Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
>>  Carnegie Building (rm 108) ;;for deliveries
>>  110 8th St.; Troy, NY 12180
>>
>>  EMAIL: grayw@rpi.edu, Cell: 518-364-9114, Lab: 518-276-6067, Fax:
>518-276-8268
>>
>>  for general information see:
>>  http://www.rpi.edu/~grayw/
>>
>>  for On-Line publications see:
>>  http://www.rpi.edu/~grayw/pubs/downloadable_pubs.htm
>>
>>  Work is infinite, time is finite, plan accordingly.
>>
>>  **Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**


-- 
**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**
Wayne D. Gray; Professor of Cognitive Science
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Carnegie Building (rm 108) ;;for deliveries
110 8th St.; Troy, NY 12180

EMAIL: grayw@rpi.edu, Cell: 518-364-9114, Lab: 518-276-6067, Fax: 518-276-8268

for general information see:
http://www.rpi.edu/~grayw/

for On-Line publications see:
http://www.rpi.edu/~grayw/pubs/downloadable_pubs.htm

Work is infinite, time is finite, plan accordingly.

**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**

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From: Gary PERLMAN <perlman@turing.acm.org>
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Greetings from snowy Ohio.

March does not look good for me.
I may need to travel with little notice.
April looks better for me, although me traveling
Tuesday night for a Wednesday meeting would be
more convenient for my family than Monday night
for a Tuesday meeting.

Gary

On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Wayne Gray wrote:

> Jack,
> 
> I indicated that I would be gone the first two Tuesday and have 
> recently returned from Germany -- basically two days before the third 
> tuesday. That is a bit different, than indicating that I am willing 
> to turn around and leave family and students before I have time to 
> unpack from the last trip!
> 
> I have no idea what you are asking me to do. How much time is 
> involved, including travel. How much time is needed on campus. How 
> much time might be needed for a report or even what sort of report 
> might be involved.
> 
> So -- I have not yet agreed to any of the particulars. Sorry for not 
> being more direct in my original reply. I remain curious. So please 
> supply a few more details.
> 
> 
> >Hi Wayne, Gary,
> >
> >As I wrote to Wayne, we will cover travel and give an honorarium  state or
> >NSF rate.
> >
> >
> >Gary, Wayne indicated he could do the 3rd Tuesday in March.  Is this ok for
> >you?  Else we have to look into April.  Please let me know ASAP.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Jack Narayan.
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Wayne Gray" <grayw@rpi.edu>
> >To: "Jack Narayan" <narayan@Oswego.EDU>
> >Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 11:59 AM
> >Subject: Re:
> >
> >
> >>  Hiya jack,
> >>
> >>  I am gone to  Germany for the first two weeks in March. Would be back
> >>  for the 3rd Tuesday -- but I should probably spend at least one or
> >>  two days in my office before heading on the road again.
> >>
> >>  So -- if we can work out these details, I am willing to talk to you about
> >this.
> >>
> >>  BTW: You do not make it clear, but am I being asked to do hard work
> >>  for free or as a consultant? How much hard work? And what sort of
> >>  incentive?
> >>
> >>  Wayne
> >>
> >>  >Hello Wayne, and Gary,
> >>  >
> >>  >Greetings.  I am working with the Computer Science and Psychology
> >>  >Departments at SUNY Oswego to get our HCI program approved.  Gary has
> >done a
> >>  >preliminary visit.  We have designed the courses for the program we
> >>  >proposed.  Both the program and course outlines have been discussed with
> >the
> >>  >relevant bodies on campus.  We are now authorized by central
> >administration
> >>  >to bring in two consultants to the campus to do a review.  The two of you
> >>  >have been approved.  I would like to invite you to the campus and explore
> >>  >the possibility of visiting on a TUESDAY in March  (except March 25 when
> >we
> >>  >are on Semester break).  I realize that you guys are very busy and if
> >these
> >>  >time don't work, perhaps you can give me some that better fit your
> >schedule.
> >>  >
> >>  >I look forward to hraing from you.
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >Jack
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >Jack Narayan
> >>  >Dean of Graduate Studies and Research
> >>  >602 Culkin Hall,SUNY,Oswego,NY 13126.
> >>  >phone 315-312-3692
> >>  >fax 315-312-3577
> >>
> >>
> >>  --
> >>  **Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**
> >>  Wayne D. Gray; Professor of Cognitive Science
> >>  Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
> >>  Carnegie Building (rm 108) ;;for deliveries
> >>  110 8th St.; Troy, NY 12180
> >>
> >>  EMAIL: grayw@rpi.edu, Cell: 518-364-9114, Lab: 518-276-6067, Fax:
> >518-276-8268
> >>
> >>  for general information see:
> >>  http://www.rpi.edu/~grayw/
> >>
> >>  for On-Line publications see:
> >>  http://www.rpi.edu/~grayw/pubs/downloadable_pubs.htm
> >>
> >>  Work is infinite, time is finite, plan accordingly.
> >>
> >>  **Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**
> 
> 
> 

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Hi Wayne, Gary,

Greetings.  It seems as if March will be bad for both of you.  We will have
to move to April.  Perhaps you can send me some dates?


Some details:

We have in mind a one on campus visit to meet with the faculty and possibly
administrators, and students.  this may entail traveling to Oswego prior to
the visit and leaving  the day after.

Each of you have been approved by SUNY central admin. You will be asked to
complete the attached form--figure B-- and return after your visit.

We will send you the program description and the course outlines before
hand.

We will pay travel expenses along with a consultantancy fee that we agree
on.

Please let me know if you need more details.  We value your service and will
certainly work with you to facilitate your visit.  Look forward to hearing
from you.

Jack



----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary PERLMAN" <perlman@turing.acm.org>
To: "Wayne Gray" <grayw@rpi.edu>
Cc: "Jack Narayan" <narayan@Oswego.EDU>; "Gary perlman"
<perlman@turing.acm.org>
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> Greetings from snowy Ohio.
>
> March does not look good for me.
> I may need to travel with little notice.
> April looks better for me, although me traveling
> Tuesday night for a Wednesday meeting would be
> more convenient for my family than Monday night
> for a Tuesday meeting.
>
> Gary
>
> On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Wayne Gray wrote:
>
> > Jack,
> >
> > I indicated that I would be gone the first two Tuesday and have
> > recently returned from Germany -- basically two days before the third
> > tuesday. That is a bit different, than indicating that I am willing
> > to turn around and leave family and students before I have time to
> > unpack from the last trip!
> >
> > I have no idea what you are asking me to do. How much time is
> > involved, including travel. How much time is needed on campus. How
> > much time might be needed for a report or even what sort of report
> > might be involved.
> >
> > So -- I have not yet agreed to any of the particulars. Sorry for not
> > being more direct in my original reply. I remain curious. So please
> > supply a few more details.
> >
> >
> > >Hi Wayne, Gary,
> > >
> > >As I wrote to Wayne, we will cover travel and give an honorarium  state
or
> > >NSF rate.
> > >
> > >
> > >Gary, Wayne indicated he could do the 3rd Tuesday in March.  Is this ok
for
> > >you?  Else we have to look into April.  Please let me know ASAP.
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >
> > >Jack Narayan.
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Wayne Gray" <grayw@rpi.edu>
> > >To: "Jack Narayan" <narayan@Oswego.EDU>
> > >Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 11:59 AM
> > >Subject: Re:
> > >
> > >
> > >>  Hiya jack,
> > >>
> > >>  I am gone to  Germany for the first two weeks in March. Would be
back
> > >>  for the 3rd Tuesday -- but I should probably spend at least one or
> > >>  two days in my office before heading on the road again.
> > >>
> > >>  So -- if we can work out these details, I am willing to talk to you
about
> > >this.
> > >>
> > >>  BTW: You do not make it clear, but am I being asked to do hard work
> > >>  for free or as a consultant? How much hard work? And what sort of
> > >>  incentive?
> > >>
> > >>  Wayne
> > >>
> > >>  >Hello Wayne, and Gary,
> > >>  >
> > >>  >Greetings.  I am working with the Computer Science and Psychology
> > >>  >Departments at SUNY Oswego to get our HCI program approved.  Gary
has
> > >done a
> > >>  >preliminary visit.  We have designed the courses for the program we
> > >>  >proposed.  Both the program and course outlines have been discussed
with
> > >the
> > >>  >relevant bodies on campus.  We are now authorized by central
> > >administration
> > >>  >to bring in two consultants to the campus to do a review.  The two
of you
> > >>  >have been approved.  I would like to invite you to the campus and
explore
> > >>  >the possibility of visiting on a TUESDAY in March  (except March 25
when
> > >we
> > >>  >are on Semester break).  I realize that you guys are very busy and
if
> > >these
> > >>  >time don't work, perhaps you can give me some that better fit your
> > >schedule.
> > >>  >
> > >>  >I look forward to hraing from you.
> > >>  >
> > >>  >
> > >>  >Jack
> > >>  >
> > >>  >
> > >>  >
> > >>  >Jack Narayan
> > >>  >Dean of Graduate Studies and Research
> > >>  >602 Culkin Hall,SUNY,Oswego,NY 13126.
> > >>  >phone 315-312-3692
> > >>  >fax 315-312-3577
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  --
> > >>  **Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**
> > >>  Wayne D. Gray; Professor of Cognitive Science
> > >>  Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
> > >>  Carnegie Building (rm 108) ;;for deliveries
> > >>  110 8th St.; Troy, NY 12180
> > >>
> > >>  EMAIL: grayw@rpi.edu, Cell: 518-364-9114, Lab: 518-276-6067, Fax:
> > >518-276-8268
> > >>
> > >>  for general information see:
> > >>  http://www.rpi.edu/~grayw/
> > >>
> > >>  for On-Line publications see:
> > >>  http://www.rpi.edu/~grayw/pubs/downloadable_pubs.htm
> > >>
> > >>  Work is infinite, time is finite, plan accordingly.
> > >>
> > >>  **Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**
> >
> >
> >

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Gary,

Well -- it is for a good cause -- but I am trying to get out of the 
business of doing hard work for free.

Sounds like they think they need us to be away from home for two 
nights. Some work before, some work after.

Just looked at their form. Will require several hours of writing -- 
though not difficult. Some reason on the web or during the visit 
directed at the questions raised.

Do you think there are any interesting restaurants in Oswego?

I guess I would be willing to do this for $1k plus expenses. What do 
you think? Too low?

Wayne
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Jack,

Okay -- I am getting a better picture of what you want. Several hours 
of work prior to the visit (let's say 2-hr), two travel days 
(according to Mapquest you are about 2.5 hrs from here -- total of 
5-hr), a full day at Oswego (including dinner with the committee) -- 
(approx. 10-hr), several hours of writing (4-hr?) when I return home. 
That is about 21 hrs of work you are asking for.

If Tuesday is the day then I could do this on April 1st. I will be 
heading to Bamberg, GE for ICCM-5 and taking a few days to look 
around before I come home. I imagine that Gary will be off to CHI in 
Florida on the 8th. But Bamberg rules out the 8th & 15th for me. I 
have a visitor on campus the 21st, but I expect him to be gone by 
dinner time. So, if Tuesday is the day, I could do this April 22, or 
29th.

Wayne


At 14:40 -0500 2003/02/22, Jack Narayan wrote:
>Hi Wayne, Gary,
>
>Greetings.  It seems as if March will be bad for both of you.  We will have
>to move to April.  Perhaps you can send me some dates?
>
>
>Some details:
>
>We have in mind a one on campus visit to meet with the faculty and possibly
>administrators, and students.  this may entail traveling to Oswego prior to
>the visit and leaving  the day after.
>
>Each of you have been approved by SUNY central admin. You will be asked to
>complete the attached form--figure B-- and return after your visit.
>
>We will send you the program description and the course outlines before
>hand.
>
>We will pay travel expenses along with a consultantancy fee that we agree
>on.
>
>Please let me know if you need more details.  We value your service and will
>certainly work with you to facilitate your visit.  Look forward to hearing
>from you.
>
>Jack
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Gary PERLMAN" <perlman@turing.acm.org>
>To: "Wayne Gray" <grayw@rpi.edu>
>Cc: "Jack Narayan" <narayan@Oswego.EDU>; "Gary perlman"
><perlman@turing.acm.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:36 AM
>Subject: Re: Oswego
>
>
>>  Greetings from snowy Ohio.
>>
>>  March does not look good for me.
>>  I may need to travel with little notice.
>>  April looks better for me, although me traveling
>>  Tuesday night for a Wednesday meeting would be
>>  more convenient for my family than Monday night
>>  for a Tuesday meeting.
>>
>>  Gary
>>
>>  On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Wayne Gray wrote:
>>
>>  > Jack,
>>  >
>>  > I indicated that I would be gone the first two Tuesday and have
>>  > recently returned from Germany -- basically two days before the third
>>  > tuesday. That is a bit different, than indicating that I am willing
>>  > to turn around and leave family and students before I have time to
>>  > unpack from the last trip!
>>  >
>>  > I have no idea what you are asking me to do. How much time is
>>  > involved, including travel. How much time is needed on campus. How
>>  > much time might be needed for a report or even what sort of report
>>  > might be involved.
>>  >
>>  > So -- I have not yet agreed to any of the particulars. Sorry for not
>>  > being more direct in my original reply. I remain curious. So please
>>  > supply a few more details.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > >Hi Wayne, Gary,
>>  > >
>>  > >As I wrote to Wayne, we will cover travel and give an honorarium  state
>or
>>  > >NSF rate.
>>  > >
>>  > >
>>  > >Gary, Wayne indicated he could do the 3rd Tuesday in March.  Is this ok
>for
>>  > >you?  Else we have to look into April.  Please let me know ASAP.
>>  > >
>>  > >Thanks
>>  > >
>>  > >Jack Narayan.
>>  > >
>>  > >
>>  > >----- Original Message -----
>>  > >From: "Wayne Gray" <grayw@rpi.edu>
>>  > >To: "Jack Narayan" <narayan@Oswego.EDU>
>>  > >Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 11:59 AM
>>  > >Subject: Re:
>>  > >
>>  > >
>>  > >>  Hiya jack,
>>  > >>
>>  > >>  I am gone to  Germany for the first two weeks in March. Would be
>back
>>  > >>  for the 3rd Tuesday -- but I should probably spend at least one or
>>  > >>  two days in my office before heading on the road again.
>  > > >>
>>  > >>  So -- if we can work out these details, I am willing to talk to you
>about
>>  > >this.
>>  > >>
>>  > >>  BTW: You do not make it clear, but am I being asked to do hard work
>>  > >>  for free or as a consultant? How much hard work? And what sort of
>>  > >>  incentive?
>>  > >>
>>  > >>  Wayne
>>  > >>
>>  > >>  >Hello Wayne, and Gary,
>>  > >>  >
>>  > >>  >Greetings.  I am working with the Computer Science and Psychology
>>  > >>  >Departments at SUNY Oswego to get our HCI program approved.  Gary
>has
>>  > >done a
>>  > >>  >preliminary visit.  We have designed the courses for the program we
>>  > >>  >proposed.  Both the program and course outlines have been discussed
>with
>>  > >the
>>  > >>  >relevant bodies on campus.  We are now authorized by central
>>  > >administration
>>  > >>  >to bring in two consultants to the campus to do a review.  The two
>of you
>>  > >>  >have been approved.  I would like to invite you to the campus and
>explore
>>  > >>  >the possibility of visiting on a TUESDAY in March  (except March 25
>when
>>  > >we
>>  > >>  >are on Semester break).  I realize that you guys are very busy and
>if
>>  > >these
>>  > >>  >time don't work, perhaps you can give me some that better fit your
>>  > >schedule.
>>  > >>  >
>>  > >>  >I look forward to hraing from you.
>>  > >>  >
>>  > >>  >
>>  > >>  >Jack
>>  > >>  >
>>  > >>  >
>>  > >>  >
>>  > >>  >Jack Narayan
>>  > >>  >Dean of Graduate Studies and Research
>>  > >>  >602 Culkin Hall,SUNY,Oswego,NY 13126.
>>  > >>  >phone 315-312-3692
>>  > >>  >fax 315-312-3577
>>  > >>
>>  > >>
>>  > >>  --
>>  > >>  **Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**
>>  > >>  Wayne D. Gray; Professor of Cognitive Science
>>  > >>  Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
>>  > >>  Carnegie Building (rm 108) ;;for deliveries
>>  > >>  110 8th St.; Troy, NY 12180
>>  > >>
>>  > >>  EMAIL: grayw@rpi.edu, Cell: 518-364-9114, Lab: 518-276-6067, Fax:
>>  > >518-276-8268
>>  > >>
>>  > >>  for general information see:
>>  > >>  http://www.rpi.edu/~grayw/
>>  > >>
>>  > >>  for On-Line publications see:
>>  > >>  http://www.rpi.edu/~grayw/pubs/downloadable_pubs.htm
>>  > >>
>>  > >>  Work is infinite, time is finite, plan accordingly.
>>  > >>
>>  > >>  **Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>
>Attachment converted: Simon:HCI Consultant Form.doc (WDBN/MSWD) (000C6811)


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Thanks, Wayne for your quick response. Lets see what Gary responds with.
Will stay on top on things.

Jack.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne Gray" <grayw@rpi.edu>
To: "Jack Narayan" <narayan@Oswego.EDU>; "Gary PERLMAN"
<perlman@turing.acm.org>
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Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 4:42 PM
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> Jack,
>
> Okay -- I am getting a better picture of what you want. Several hours
> of work prior to the visit (let's say 2-hr), two travel days
> (according to Mapquest you are about 2.5 hrs from here -- total of
> 5-hr), a full day at Oswego (including dinner with the committee) --
> (approx. 10-hr), several hours of writing (4-hr?) when I return home.
> That is about 21 hrs of work you are asking for.
>
> If Tuesday is the day then I could do this on April 1st. I will be
> heading to Bamberg, GE for ICCM-5 and taking a few days to look
> around before I come home. I imagine that Gary will be off to CHI in
> Florida on the 8th. But Bamberg rules out the 8th & 15th for me. I
> have a visitor on campus the 21st, but I expect him to be gone by
> dinner time. So, if Tuesday is the day, I could do this April 22, or
> 29th.
>
> Wayne
>
>
> At 14:40 -0500 2003/02/22, Jack Narayan wrote:
> >Hi Wayne, Gary,
> >
> >Greetings.  It seems as if March will be bad for both of you.  We will
have
> >to move to April.  Perhaps you can send me some dates?
> >
> >
> >Some details:
> >
> >We have in mind a one on campus visit to meet with the faculty and
possibly
> >administrators, and students.  this may entail traveling to Oswego prior
to
> >the visit and leaving  the day after.
> >
> >Each of you have been approved by SUNY central admin. You will be asked
to
> >complete the attached form--figure B-- and return after your visit.
> >
> >We will send you the program description and the course outlines before
> >hand.
> >
> >We will pay travel expenses along with a consultantancy fee that we agree
> >on.
> >
> >Please let me know if you need more details.  We value your service and
will
> >certainly work with you to facilitate your visit.  Look forward to
hearing
> >from you.
> >
> >Jack
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Gary PERLMAN" <perlman@turing.acm.org>
> >To: "Wayne Gray" <grayw@rpi.edu>
> >Cc: "Jack Narayan" <narayan@Oswego.EDU>; "Gary perlman"
> ><perlman@turing.acm.org>
> >Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:36 AM
> >Subject: Re: Oswego
> >
> >
> >>  Greetings from snowy Ohio.
> >>
> >>  March does not look good for me.
> >>  I may need to travel with little notice.
> >>  April looks better for me, although me traveling
> >>  Tuesday night for a Wednesday meeting would be
> >>  more convenient for my family than Monday night
> >>  for a Tuesday meeting.
> >>
> >>  Gary
> >>
> >>  On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Wayne Gray wrote:
> >>
> >>  > Jack,
> >>  >
> >>  > I indicated that I would be gone the first two Tuesday and have
> >>  > recently returned from Germany -- basically two days before the
third
> >>  > tuesday. That is a bit different, than indicating that I am willing
> >>  > to turn around and leave family and students before I have time to
> >>  > unpack from the last trip!
> >>  >
> >>  > I have no idea what you are asking me to do. How much time is
> >>  > involved, including travel. How much time is needed on campus. How
> >>  > much time might be needed for a report or even what sort of report
> >>  > might be involved.
> >>  >
> >>  > So -- I have not yet agreed to any of the particulars. Sorry for not
> >>  > being more direct in my original reply. I remain curious. So please
> >>  > supply a few more details.
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  > >Hi Wayne, Gary,
> >>  > >
> >>  > >As I wrote to Wayne, we will cover travel and give an honorarium
state
> >or
> >>  > >NSF rate.
> >>  > >
> >>  > >
> >>  > >Gary, Wayne indicated he could do the 3rd Tuesday in March.  Is
this ok
> >for
> >>  > >you?  Else we have to look into April.  Please let me know ASAP.
> >>  > >
> >>  > >Thanks
> >>  > >
> >>  > >Jack Narayan.
> >>  > >
> >>  > >
> >>  > >----- Original Message -----
> >>  > >From: "Wayne Gray" <grayw@rpi.edu>
> >>  > >To: "Jack Narayan" <narayan@Oswego.EDU>
> >>  > >Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 11:59 AM
> >>  > >Subject: Re:
> >>  > >
> >>  > >
> >>  > >>  Hiya jack,
> >>  > >>
> >>  > >>  I am gone to  Germany for the first two weeks in March. Would be
> >back
> >>  > >>  for the 3rd Tuesday -- but I should probably spend at least one
or
> >>  > >>  two days in my office before heading on the road again.
> >  > > >>
> >>  > >>  So -- if we can work out these details, I am willing to talk to
you
> >about
> >>  > >this.
> >>  > >>
> >>  > >>  BTW: You do not make it clear, but am I being asked to do hard
work
> >>  > >>  for free or as a consultant? How much hard work? And what sort
of
> >>  > >>  incentive?
> >>  > >>
> >>  > >>  Wayne
> >>  > >>
> >>  > >>  >Hello Wayne, and Gary,
> >>  > >>  >
> >>  > >>  >Greetings.  I am working with the Computer Science and
Psychology
> >>  > >>  >Departments at SUNY Oswego to get our HCI program approved.
Gary
> >has
> >>  > >done a
> >>  > >>  >preliminary visit.  We have designed the courses for the
program we
> >>  > >>  >proposed.  Both the program and course outlines have been
discussed
> >with
> >>  > >the
> >>  > >>  >relevant bodies on campus.  We are now authorized by central
> >>  > >administration
> >>  > >>  >to bring in two consultants to the campus to do a review.  The
two
> >of you
> >>  > >>  >have been approved.  I would like to invite you to the campus
and
> >explore
> >>  > >>  >the possibility of visiting on a TUESDAY in March  (except
March 25
> >when
> >>  > >we
> >>  > >>  >are on Semester break).  I realize that you guys are very busy
and
> >if
> >>  > >these
> >>  > >>  >time don't work, perhaps you can give me some that better fit
your
> >>  > >schedule.
> >>  > >>  >
> >>  > >>  >I look forward to hraing from you.
> >>  > >>  >
> >>  > >>  >
> >>  > >>  >Jack
> >>  > >>  >
> >>  > >>  >
> >>  > >>  >
> >>  > >>  >Jack Narayan
> >>  > >>  >Dean of Graduate Studies and Research
> >>  > >>  >602 Culkin Hall,SUNY,Oswego,NY 13126.
> >>  > >>  >phone 315-312-3692
> >>  > >>  >fax 315-312-3577
> >>  > >>
> >>  > >>
> >>  > >>  --
> >>  > >>  **Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**
> >>  > >>  Wayne D. Gray; Professor of Cognitive Science
> >>  > >>  Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
> >>  > >>  Carnegie Building (rm 108) ;;for deliveries
> >>  > >>  110 8th St.; Troy, NY 12180
> >>  > >>
> >>  > >>  EMAIL: grayw@rpi.edu, Cell: 518-364-9114, Lab: 518-276-6067,
Fax:
> >>  > >518-276-8268
> >>  > >>
> >>  > >>  for general information see:
> >>  > >>  http://www.rpi.edu/~grayw/
> >>  > >>
> >>  > >>  for On-Line publications see:
> >>  > >>  http://www.rpi.edu/~grayw/pubs/downloadable_pubs.htm
> >>  > >>
> >>  > >>  Work is infinite, time is finite, plan accordingly.
> >>  > >>
> >>  > >>  **Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >
> >Attachment converted: Simon:HCI Consultant Form.doc (WDBN/MSWD)
(000C6811)
>
>
> --
> **Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**
> Wayne D. Gray; Professor of Cognitive Science
> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
> Carnegie Building (rm 108) ;;for deliveries
> 110 8th St.; Troy, NY 12180
>
> EMAIL: grayw@rpi.edu, Cell: 518-364-9114, Lab: 518-276-6067, Fax:
518-276-8268
>
> for general information see:
> http://www.rpi.edu/~grayw/
>
> for On-Line publications see:
> http://www.rpi.edu/~grayw/pubs/downloadable_pubs.htm
>
> Work is infinite, time is finite, plan accordingly.
>
> **Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**

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Here are some Tuesdays we are considering:

April 1, 22, or 29.

Are any of these possible, better?

I assume I'd fly out the Monday before and come back
the Wednesday morning after.

xoxox

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I will let you know when I hear from the schools that would
interview Mark and George.
  As I said before, no Monday is good. Afternoon Tuesday or
Weds or Thurs am is good. But no monday is good (and that
includes travel).

> Hello again,
>
> Please let me know if the dates below will work.
>
> xoxox
>
> On Sun, 23 Feb 2003, Gary PERLMAN wrote:
>
>> Here are some Tuesdays we are considering:
>>
>> April 1, 22, or 29.
>>
>> Are any of these possible, better?
>>
>> I assume I'd fly out the Monday before and come back
>> the Wednesday morning after.
>>
>> xoxox
>>



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Hi Folks,

Looks like We cannot do it on a Wednesday.  Wayne, could you look at Gray's
dates and see what matches.  Thanks for your help in trying to set this up.

jack


Jack Narayan
Dean of Graduate Studies and Research
602 Culkin Hall,SUNY,Oswego,NY 13126.
phone 315-312-3692
fax 315-312-3577

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary PERLMAN [mailto:perlman@turing.acm.org]
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 9:47 AM
To: Jack Narayan
Cc: Wayne Gray; Gary Klatsky; Rhonda Mandel; Rameen Mohammadi; Thomas
Darvill
Subject: Re: Oswego


Folks,

I apologize for taking so long to gather information.  Until the
summer, I will be juggling a complex and unpredictable schedule,
after which I will probably be even less available until 2004.
Tuesdays are bad for me because it will involve travel on Mondays.
Wednesdays are better.  Here is a list of possible Wednesdays:
	March 5, 12
	April 2, 9 16 23 30
	May 7, 14, 21
If the meeting must be on Tuesday, I do not think I will be available.

Gary

On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, Jack Narayan wrote:

> Thanks, Wayne for your quick response. Lets see what Gary responds with.
> Will stay on top on things.
>
> Jack.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wayne Gray" <grayw@rpi.edu>
> To: "Jack Narayan" <narayan@Oswego.EDU>; "Gary PERLMAN"
> <perlman@turing.acm.org>
> Cc: "Gary Klatsky" <klatsky@Oswego.EDU>; "Rhonda Mandel"
> <mandel@Oswego.EDU>; "Rameen Mohammadi" <mohammad@Oswego.EDU>; "Thomas
> Darvill" <darvill@Oswego.EDU>
> Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 4:42 PM
> Subject: Re: Oswego
>
>
> > Jack,
> >
> > Okay -- I am getting a better picture of what you want. Several hours
> > of work prior to the visit (let's say 2-hr), two travel days
> > (according to Mapquest you are about 2.5 hrs from here -- total of
> > 5-hr), a full day at Oswego (including dinner with the committee) --
> > (approx. 10-hr), several hours of writing (4-hr?) when I return home.
> > That is about 21 hrs of work you are asking for.
> >
> > If Tuesday is the day then I could do this on April 1st. I will be
> > heading to Bamberg, GE for ICCM-5 and taking a few days to look
> > around before I come home. I imagine that Gary will be off to CHI in
> > Florida on the 8th. But Bamberg rules out the 8th & 15th for me. I
> > have a visitor on campus the 21st, but I expect him to be gone by
> > dinner time. So, if Tuesday is the day, I could do this April 22, or
> > 29th.
> >
> > Wayne
> >
> >
> > At 14:40 -0500 2003/02/22, Jack Narayan wrote:
> > >Hi Wayne, Gary,
> > >
> > >Greetings.  It seems as if March will be bad for both of you.  We will
> have
> > >to move to April.  Perhaps you can send me some dates?
> > >
> > >
> > >Some details:
> > >
> > >We have in mind a one on campus visit to meet with the faculty and
> possibly
> > >administrators, and students.  this may entail traveling to Oswego
prior
> to
> > >the visit and leaving  the day after.
> > >
> > >Each of you have been approved by SUNY central admin. You will be asked
> to
> > >complete the attached form--figure B-- and return after your visit.
> > >
> > >We will send you the program description and the course outlines before
> > >hand.
> > >
> > >We will pay travel expenses along with a consultantancy fee that we
agree
> > >on.
> > >
> > >Please let me know if you need more details.  We value your service and
> will
> > >certainly work with you to facilitate your visit.  Look forward to
> hearing
> > >from you.
> > >
> > >Jack
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Gary PERLMAN" <perlman@turing.acm.org>
> > >To: "Wayne Gray" <grayw@rpi.edu>
> > >Cc: "Jack Narayan" <narayan@Oswego.EDU>; "Gary perlman"
> > ><perlman@turing.acm.org>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:36 AM
> > >Subject: Re: Oswego
> > >
> > >
> > >>  Greetings from snowy Ohio.
> > >>
> > >>  March does not look good for me.
> > >>  I may need to travel with little notice.
> > >>  April looks better for me, although me traveling
> > >>  Tuesday night for a Wednesday meeting would be
> > >>  more convenient for my family than Monday night
> > >>  for a Tuesday meeting.
> > >>
> > >>  Gary
> > >>
> > >>  On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Wayne Gray wrote:
> > >>
> > >>  > Jack,
> > >>  >
> > >>  > I indicated that I would be gone the first two Tuesday and have
> > >>  > recently returned from Germany -- basically two days before the
> third
> > >>  > tuesday. That is a bit different, than indicating that I am
willing
> > >>  > to turn around and leave family and students before I have time to
> > >>  > unpack from the last trip!
> > >>  >
> > >>  > I have no idea what you are asking me to do. How much time is
> > >>  > involved, including travel. How much time is needed on campus. How
> > >>  > much time might be needed for a report or even what sort of report
> > >>  > might be involved.
> > >>  >
> > >>  > So -- I have not yet agreed to any of the particulars. Sorry for
not
> > >>  > being more direct in my original reply. I remain curious. So
please
> > >>  > supply a few more details.
> > >>  >
> > >>  >
> > >>  > >Hi Wayne, Gary,
> > >>  > >
> > >>  > >As I wrote to Wayne, we will cover travel and give an honorarium
> state
> > >or
> > >>  > >NSF rate.
> > >>  > >
> > >>  > >
> > >>  > >Gary, Wayne indicated he could do the 3rd Tuesday in March.  Is
> this ok
> > >for
> > >>  > >you?  Else we have to look into April.  Please let me know ASAP.
> > >>  > >
> > >>  > >Thanks
> > >>  > >
> > >>  > >Jack Narayan.
> > >>  > >
> > >>  > >
> > >>  > >----- Original Message -----
> > >>  > >From: "Wayne Gray" <grayw@rpi.edu>
> > >>  > >To: "Jack Narayan" <narayan@Oswego.EDU>
> > >>  > >Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 11:59 AM
> > >>  > >Subject: Re:
> > >>  > >
> > >>  > >
> > >>  > >>  Hiya jack,
> > >>  > >>
> > >>  > >>  I am gone to  Germany for the first two weeks in March. Would
be
> > >back
> > >>  > >>  for the 3rd Tuesday -- but I should probably spend at least
one
> or
> > >>  > >>  two days in my office before heading on the road again.
> > >  > > >>
> > >>  > >>  So -- if we can work out these details, I am willing to talk
to
> you
> > >about
> > >>  > >this.
> > >>  > >>
> > >>  > >>  BTW: You do not make it clear, but am I being asked to do hard
> work
> > >>  > >>  for free or as a consultant? How much hard work? And what sort
> of
> > >>  > >>  incentive?
> > >>  > >>
> > >>  > >>  Wayne
> > >>  > >>
> > >>  > >>  >Hello Wayne, and Gary,
> > >>  > >>  >
> > >>  > >>  >Greetings.  I am working with the Computer Science and
> Psychology
> > >>  > >>  >Departments at SUNY Oswego to get our HCI program approved.
> Gary
> > >has
> > >>  > >done a
> > >>  > >>  >preliminary visit.  We have designed the courses for the
> program we
> > >>  > >>  >proposed.  Both the program and course outlines have been
> discussed
> > >with
> > >>  > >the
> > >>  > >>  >relevant bodies on campus.  We are now authorized by central
> > >>  > >administration
> > >>  > >>  >to bring in two consultants to the campus to do a review.
The
> two
> > >of you
> > >>  > >>  >have been approved.  I would like to invite you to the campus
> and
> > >explore
> > >>  > >>  >the possibility of visiting on a TUESDAY in March  (except
> March 25
> > >when
> > >>  > >we
> > >>  > >>  >are on Semester break).  I realize that you guys are very
busy
> and
> > >if
> > >>  > >these
> > >>  > >>  >time don't work, perhaps you can give me some that better fit
> your
> > >>  > >schedule.
> > >>  > >>  >
> > >>  > >>  >I look forward to hraing from you.
> > >>  > >>  >
> > >>  > >>  >
> > >>  > >>  >Jack
> > >>  > >>  >
> > >>  > >>  >
> > >>  > >>  >
> > >>  > >>  >Jack Narayan
> > >>  > >>  >Dean of Graduate Studies and Research
> > >>  > >>  >602 Culkin Hall,SUNY,Oswego,NY 13126.
> > >>  > >>  >phone 315-312-3692
> > >>  > >>  >fax 315-312-3577
> > >>  > >>
> > >>  > >>
> > >>  > >>  --
> > >>  > >>  **Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**
> > >>  > >>  Wayne D. Gray; Professor of Cognitive Science
> > >>  > >>  Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
> > >>  > >>  Carnegie Building (rm 108) ;;for deliveries
> > >>  > >>  110 8th St.; Troy, NY 12180
> > >>  > >>
> > >>  > >>  EMAIL: grayw@rpi.edu, Cell: 518-364-9114, Lab: 518-276-6067,
> Fax:
> > >>  > >518-276-8268
> > >>  > >>
> > >>  > >>  for general information see:
> > >>  > >>  http://www.rpi.edu/~grayw/
> > >>  > >>
> > >>  > >>  for On-Line publications see:
> > >>  > >>  http://www.rpi.edu/~grayw/pubs/downloadable_pubs.htm
> > >>  > >>
> > >>  > >>  Work is infinite, time is finite, plan accordingly.
> > >>  > >>
> > >>  > >>  **Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**
> > >>  >
> > >>  >
> > >>  >
> > >
> > >Attachment converted: Simon:HCI Consultant Form.doc (WDBN/MSWD)
> (000C6811)
> >
> >
> > --
> > **Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**
> > Wayne D. Gray; Professor of Cognitive Science
> > Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
> > Carnegie Building (rm 108) ;;for deliveries
> > 110 8th St.; Troy, NY 12180
> >
> > EMAIL: grayw@rpi.edu, Cell: 518-364-9114, Lab: 518-276-6067, Fax:
> 518-276-8268
> >
> > for general information see:
> > http://www.rpi.edu/~grayw/
> >
> > for On-Line publications see:
> > http://www.rpi.edu/~grayw/pubs/downloadable_pubs.htm
> >
> > Work is infinite, time is finite, plan accordingly.
> >
> > **Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**
>

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I think I can parse the message. Cannot do on Tuesday. Look at Gary's 
dates. (I know, everyone's a wise guy.)

April 2 is okay. (April 9 & 16 NOT okay)
April 23 or 30 okay
May 7 or 14 okay (May 21 not okay)

Wayne

At 11:58 -0500 2003/02/26, Jack Narayan wrote:
>Hi Folks,
>
>Looks like We cannot do it on a Wednesday.  Wayne, could you look at Gray's
>dates and see what matches.  Thanks for your help in trying to set this up.
>
>jack
>
>
>Jack Narayan
>Dean of Graduate Studies and Research
>602 Culkin Hall,SUNY,Oswego,NY 13126.
>phone 315-312-3692
>fax 315-312-3577
>
>
>I apologize for taking so long to gather information.  Until the
>summer, I will be juggling a complex and unpredictable schedule,
>after which I will probably be even less available until 2004.
>Tuesdays are bad for me because it will involve travel on Mondays.
>Wednesdays are better.  Here is a list of possible Wednesdays:
>	March 5, 12
>	April 2, 9 16 23 30
>	May 7, 14, 21
>If the meeting must be on Tuesday, I do not think I will be available.
>
>Gary
>
>On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, Jack Narayan wrote:

-- 
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Hello Wayne, Gary,

Wednesday, April 2 will work for us.  Lets plan on it.  Please make your =
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I appreciate your willingness to help us with our HCI program.  Please =
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Jack

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Thanks Gary.  Glad to hear that you have made the reservation.  Yes, rent a
car.
We will discuss the airfare matter when you get here.  Wayne says his fee is
$1000  to which we have agreed.  I appreciate your generous offer not to
charge.  However, in fairness to you, we should pay you the same--unless
there is some problem--in which case we cam think about another form of
reimbursement.

I will ask Gary Klatsky to send you and Wayne some materials we have
developed so far.

Thanks again,
Jack



----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary PERLMAN" <perlman@turing.acm.org>
To: "Jack Narayan" <narayan@Oswego.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: your mail


> Jack,
>
> I made my reservations.  I'll be coming in April 1,
> arriving in Syracuse at 7:25 PM from Laguardia.
> I assume I should rent a car and drive to Campus.
>
> I plan to leave 9:50 AM on April 3.
>
> We'll need to negotiate my airfare because
> I am taking a personal trip over the weekend before.
> My fare is $496.82.  The fare for just the trip
> to Syracuse is $530.50 because there is no
> Saturday stayover, although I did not check
> other airlines for an evening arrival and morning
> departure.
>
> On Sat, 1 Mar 2003, Jack Narayan wrote:
>
> > Hello Wayne, Gary,
> >
> > Wednesday, April 2 will work for us.  Lets plan on it.  Please make your
travel arrangements for which you will be reimbursed. I will send you some
information on the program description and the course descriptions by email.
> >
> > I appreciate your willingness to help us with our HCI program.  Please
let me know if you need more information or have questions.
> >
> > Jack
> >

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Given that the United States is at war,
I am considering cancelling all my air travel.
I'm guessing that OCLC might cancel my travel for me,
but frankly, I do not feel coonfortable flying,
so I think we will need to reschedule my visit.

Gary Perlman

On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Jack Narayan wrote:

> Thanks Gary.  Glad to hear that you have made the reservation.  Yes, rent a
> car.
> We will discuss the airfare matter when you get here.  Wayne says his fee is
> $1000  to which we have agreed.  I appreciate your generous offer not to
> charge.  However, in fairness to you, we should pay you the same--unless
> there is some problem--in which case we cam think about another form of
> reimbursement.
> 
> I will ask Gary Klatsky to send you and Wayne some materials we have
> developed so far.
> 
> Thanks again,
> Jack
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary PERLMAN" <perlman@turing.acm.org>
> To: "Jack Narayan" <narayan@Oswego.EDU>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:37 PM
> Subject: Re: your mail
> 
> 
> > Jack,
> >
> > I made my reservations.  I'll be coming in April 1,
> > arriving in Syracuse at 7:25 PM from Laguardia.
> > I assume I should rent a car and drive to Campus.
> >
> > I plan to leave 9:50 AM on April 3.
> >
> > We'll need to negotiate my airfare because
> > I am taking a personal trip over the weekend before.
> > My fare is $496.82.  The fare for just the trip
> > to Syracuse is $530.50 because there is no
> > Saturday stayover, although I did not check
> > other airlines for an evening arrival and morning
> > departure.
> >
> > On Sat, 1 Mar 2003, Jack Narayan wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Wayne, Gary,
> > >
> > > Wednesday, April 2 will work for us.  Lets plan on it.  Please make your
> travel arrangements for which you will be reimbursed. I will send you some
> information on the program description and the course descriptions by email.
> > >
> > > I appreciate your willingness to help us with our HCI program.  Please
> let me know if you need more information or have questions.
> > >
> > > Jack
> > >
> 


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Thanks Gary,

I can understand your decision.  I am trying to get approval for you to do
the review away from campus.  Perhaps if you study the materials and we can
arrange a conference call while Wayne Gray is here.  You guys have busy
schedule and rescheduling will slow us down.


I will be in touch.

Jack



Jack Narayan
Dean of Graduate Studies and Research
602 Culkin Hall,SUNY,Oswego,NY 13126.
phone 315-312-3692
fax 315-312-3577

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 4:30 PM
To: Jack Narayan
Cc: Rhonda Mandel; Thomas Darvill; Rameen Mohammadi; Gary Klatsky; Gary
perlman
Subject: postpone meeting until after the war?


Given that the United States is at war,
I am considering cancelling all my air travel.
I'm guessing that OCLC might cancel my travel for me,
but frankly, I do not feel coonfortable flying,
so I think we will need to reschedule my visit.

Gary Perlman

On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Jack Narayan wrote:

> Thanks Gary.  Glad to hear that you have made the reservation.  Yes, rent
a
> car.
> We will discuss the airfare matter when you get here.  Wayne says his fee
is
> $1000  to which we have agreed.  I appreciate your generous offer not to
> charge.  However, in fairness to you, we should pay you the same--unless
> there is some problem--in which case we cam think about another form of
> reimbursement.
>
> I will ask Gary Klatsky to send you and Wayne some materials we have
> developed so far.
>
> Thanks again,
> Jack
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary PERLMAN" <perlman@turing.acm.org>
> To: "Jack Narayan" <narayan@Oswego.EDU>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:37 PM
> Subject: Re: your mail
>
>
> > Jack,
> >
> > I made my reservations.  I'll be coming in April 1,
> > arriving in Syracuse at 7:25 PM from Laguardia.
> > I assume I should rent a car and drive to Campus.
> >
> > I plan to leave 9:50 AM on April 3.
> >
> > We'll need to negotiate my airfare because
> > I am taking a personal trip over the weekend before.
> > My fare is $496.82.  The fare for just the trip
> > to Syracuse is $530.50 because there is no
> > Saturday stayover, although I did not check
> > other airlines for an evening arrival and morning
> > departure.
> >
> > On Sat, 1 Mar 2003, Jack Narayan wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Wayne, Gary,
> > >
> > > Wednesday, April 2 will work for us.  Lets plan on it.  Please make
your
> travel arrangements for which you will be reimbursed. I will send you some
> information on the program description and the course descriptions by
email.
> > >
> > > I appreciate your willingness to help us with our HCI program.  Please
> let me know if you need more information or have questions.
> > >
> > > Jack
> > >
>


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Jack Narayan asked that I forward the information on our HCI program to you.
PDF versions of those documents are available at
http://www.oswego.edu/~klatsky/hci

There are some additional documents (financial tables and faculty vitae)
that I will have to mail to you. Would you send me the address where you
would like to receive those documents.  Also let me know if you would like
paper copies of the documents that are on-line

Thanks for your willingness to participate in this review

Gary



Gary J. Klatsky, Ph. D.

Department of Psychology		klatsky@oswego.edu
Oswego State University (SUNY)		http://www.oswego.edu/~klatsky
7060 State Hwy 104W			Voice: (315) 312-3474
Oswego, NY 13126			 Fax:   (315) 312-6330




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Hi Gary

In looking over Jack's email, the directions from the airport to Oswego are
slightly different than the ones given to Wayne. On exiting the airport you
would take the airport road to Rt 81 North.  Then take 81 N to 481 N. The
directions are the same from that point.  Depending on when you are
arriving, we can meet for a drink or dinner. When traveling up Rt 481, you
will pass very close to where I live. There are a couple of restaurants at
that exit.

Gary


Gary J. Klatsky, Ph. D.

Department of Psychology		klatsky@oswego.edu
Oswego State University (SUNY)		http://www.oswego.edu/~klatsky
7060 State Hwy 104W			Voice: (315) 312-3474
Oswego, NY 13126			 Fax:   (315) 312-6330

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be keenly aware how small an influence reason and honest good will exert
upon events in the political field.
                            Albert Einstein

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Jack Narayan [mailto:narayan@Oswego.EDU]
Sent:	Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:13 PM
To:	Gary PERLMAN
Cc:	Wayne Gray; Gary J Klatsky
Subject:	RE:

Hi Gary,

Thanks for the quick response.

I will reserve a room for two nights at Sheldon Hall also.

Please rent a car and follow the directions to Oswego.  My home phone is
315-343-8646.  Give me a call and I will get you the keys.

We are working on a revised itenary and will email as soon as we hear from
the faculty.

Jack



Jack Narayan
Dean of Graduate Studies and Research
602 Culkin Hall,SUNY,Oswego,NY 13126.
phone 315-312-3692
fax 315-312-3577

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary PERLMAN [mailto:perlman@turing.acm.org]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 12:44 PM
To: Jack Narayan
Subject: RE:


My schedule has not changed:

> I made my reservations.  I'll be coming in April 1,
> arriving in Syracuse at 7:25 PM from Laguardia.
> I assume I should rent a car and drive to Campus.
>
> I plan to leave 9:50 AM on April 3.

Gary

On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Jack Narayan wrote:

> Hi Gary,
>
> Please send me your new schedule so that I could make the appropriate
> reservations.
>
> Thanks
>
> jack
>
>
> Jack Narayan
> Dean of Graduate Studies and Research
> 602 Culkin Hall,SUNY,Oswego,NY 13126.
> phone 315-312-3692
> fax 315-312-3577
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary PERLMAN [mailto:perlman@turing.acm.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:36 AM
> To: Jack Narayan
> Cc: Wayne Gray; Rhonda MANDEL; Gary J Klatsky
> Subject: RE:
>
>
> My travel to Oswego has been approved.
> Shall I use these instructions?
>
> Gary
>
> On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Jack Narayan wrote:
>
> > Hi Wayne,
> >
> > Good to hear from you.  Plans are progressing nicely. We are on semester
> > break now and will get you an itenary on Monday.  We did the following
> when
> > the last consultant was here and will do something similar now.
> >
> > Breakfast with the director at about 8:30
> >
> > Meeting with the committee 9:00 to 11:00
> >
> > Meeting with administrators 11:00 to 12:00
> >
> > Lunch : 12:00 to 1:00
> >
> > Tours of facilities 1:00 to 2:30
> >
> > Exit meeting with director and faculty 2:30 to 3:30
> >
> > The URL for the website is http://www.oswego.edu/~klatsky/hci
> >
> > The reference to more information is an email address for Gray Klatsky
> >
> >
> > I have made reservations at our on campus guest facilities in Sheldon
hall
> > for Tuesday night.  I will make arrangements for you to get the keys and
> > show you to your room.  Let me know when to plan to arrive. My home # is
> > 315-343-8646.  You can give me a call.  I live 3 miles from the campus
and
> > would drive in to meet you.  If you plan to arrive before dinner, let me
> > know.
> >
> > You can use the address 300 Washington BLVD to get to the King Hall, the
> > Alumni Building.  Park in the parking lot adjacent to King Hall.
Sheldon
> is
> > across the street.
> >
> > Basically you will take the thruway to 481 north exit.  481 will bring
you
> > into Oswego. The first TL is Utica st.  The second TL is bridge st or
> route
> > 104.  Make a left on to bridge st and follow the route to the college.
At
> > the fork on the road, keep straight.  That is Washington BLVD.  King
hall
> > will be a few blocks up on the left.  Sheldon is on the right.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Let me know if you have more questions.
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
> >
> > Jack Narayan
> > Dean of Graduate Studies and Research
> > 602 Culkin Hall,SUNY,Oswego,NY 13126.
> > phone 315-312-3692
> > fax 315-312-3577
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wayne Gray [mailto:grayw@rpi.edu]
> > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:43 PM
> > To: Jack Narayan
> > Subject: Re:
> >
> >
> > Hiya Jack,
> >
> > How are your plans  progressing? I received a packet of stuff in the
> > mail. It looked mostly like CV's, but had no agenda. A yellow sticky
> > referred to a website with more info. I have not seen this website.
> > Please send the URL.
> >
> > Depending on your schedule I would plan to drive up Tues night and
> > back Wed. So I would need to know where to go. Some sort of address I
> > can feed into MapQuest would be fine. I can get close to Oswego, but
> > after that it gets fuzzy.
> >
> > Wayne
> >
> > >Hi Wayne and Gary,
> > >
> > >In view of the cancellation of Gary's trip for the visit, we would like
> to
> > >proceed as follows:
> > >
> > >Keep the dates as scheduled for April 2, 3
> > >
> > >Have Wayne do a site visit
> > >
> > >Have Gray review the materials and do a conference call with Wayne
while
> > >Wayne is on Campus
> > >
> > >Have a conference call with Consultants and the HCI folks on Campus
after
> > >Gary and Wayne talked
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >This is a draft of a plan.  We could fill in as needed.  Basically I
need
> > >your agreement.
> > >
> > >Look forward to hearing from you soon.
> > >
> > >Jack
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Jack Narayan
> > >Dean of Graduate Studies and Research
> > >602 Culkin Hall,SUNY,Oswego,NY 13126.
> > >phone 315-312-3692
> > >fax 315-312-3577
> >
> >
> > --
> > **Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**
> > Wayne D. Gray; Professor of Cognitive Science
> > Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
> > Carnegie Building (rm 108) ;;for deliveries
> > 110 8th St.; Troy, NY 12180
> >
> > EMAIL: grayw@rpi.edu, Cell: 518-364-9114, Lab: 518-276-6067, Fax:
> > 518-276-8268
> >
> > for general information see:
> > http://www.rpi.edu/~grayw/
> >
> > for On-Line publications see:
> > http://www.rpi.edu/~grayw/pubs/downloadable_pubs.htm
> >
> > Work is infinite, time is finite, plan accordingly.
> >
> > **Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**Rensselaer**
> >
> >
>
>



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Gary,

1st draft partway thru section III. I am leaving now to get on the plane.

May work on v2 there. May not. Have a dissertation to read. Should 
last me to Frankfurt.

Wayne
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Hi Gary and Wayne,

I would like to thank you both for your report.  We think it was thorough,
fair, and informative.  We will address the concerns you have raised.  WE
will proceed with the procedures for creating the program.  Thanks again.

Jack


Jack Narayan
Dean of Graduate Studies and Research
602 Culkin Hall,SUNY,Oswego,NY 13126.
phone 315-312-3692
fax 315-312-3577

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 4:02 PM
To: Jack Narayan
Cc: Perlman,Gary
Subject: evaluation of HCI Masters


Jack,

Here is our joint evaluation. We think you have a solid proposal and
a more than adequate basis to get started. Our cautions pretty much
concern things that you will need to do once you get started.

Good luck.

Wayne
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Gary P,
 Thanks for your message.  I was out of the office for a few days so I
just received it this morning.
 It really doesn't matter what you send when.  I'll leave it up to you to
decide.
 If you have a list already created, you can certainly send it. 
 We'll probably begin to work on the collection this summer but I really
can't tell you how long it will take until I see what you have.  We don't
normally receive duplicate titles but I'll leave that up to Gary K. 
 Would you like a name plate inserted in the monographs noting your gift?

Gary K, would you like to look this collection when received?  Just let
me know and I'll give you a shout when it arrives.
 
			deborah...

On Sun, 20 Apr 2003, Gary PERLMAN wrote:

> Dear Deborah,
> 
> I am preparing a shipment of HCI journals, books, and conference
> proceedings for Oswego.  I'm guessing that I'll be sending
> about 10 boxes, each 1.5 cubic feet.  I'll have things organized
> pretty well and can include OCLC numbers for all the items
> (I work at OCLC on FirstSearch, so I'm hoping like to see
> Penfield's holdings in human-computer interaction jump.)
> 
> Right now, the journals are ready to go.  Would you like
> to receive everything at once or journals one week, books
> the next, and then conference proceedings?  I can e-mail a
> list of titles, authors, ISBN/ISSN, and OCLC number,
> if that would be helpful to you.
> 
> I am very excited to find a good home for this material.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Gary Perlman, Director, HCI Bibliography Project
> PO Box 20187, Columbus, OH 43220 USA
> mailto:director@hcibib.org  http://hcibib.org/
> 
> On Fri, 11 Apr 2003, Gary Klatsky wrote:
> 
> > Gary
> > 
> > Please send the material to 
> > Penfield Library, Acquisitions Dept.
> > c/o Deborah Curry
> > State University of NY at Oswego
> > Oswego, NY 13126
> > 
> > Once again, thanks so much for the donation
> > 
> > Gary
> > 
> > Gary J. Klatsky, Ph. D. 
> > 
> > Department of Psychology		klatsky@oswego.edu
> > Oswego State University (SUNY)		http://www.oswego.edu/~klatsky
> > 7060 State Hwy 104W			Voice: (315) 312-3474
> > Oswego, NY 13126			 Fax:   (315) 312-6330
> > 
> > All of us who are concerned for peace and triumph of reason and 
> > justice must be keenly aware how small an influence reason and 
> > honest good will exert upon events in the political field.
> >                             Albert Einstein
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 


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Gary

Please send the material to 
Penfield Library, Acquisitions Dept.
c/o Deborah Curry
State University of NY at Oswego
Oswego, NY 13126

Once again, thanks so much for the donation

Gary

Gary J. Klatsky, Ph. D. 

Department of Psychology		klatsky@oswego.edu
Oswego State University (SUNY)		http://www.oswego.edu/~klatsky
7060 State Hwy 104W			Voice: (315) 312-3474
Oswego, NY 13126			 Fax:   (315) 312-6330

All of us who are concerned for peace and triumph of reason and 
justice must be keenly aware how small an influence reason and 
honest good will exert upon events in the political field.
                            Albert Einstein





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Gary

I am waiting to hear back from the library whether they want the materials
sent directly to them. If you are ready to send the materials and have not
heard otherwise from me, just use my address

Thanks again

Gary

Gary J. Klatsky, Ph. D.

Department of Psychology		klatsky@oswego.edu
Oswego State University (SUNY)		http://www.oswego.edu/~klatsky
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exert upon events in the political field.
                                                                     Albert
Einstein

 -----Original Message-----
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Sent:	Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:33 AM
To:	Gary Klatsky
Subject:	RE: want a free HCI library for Oswego?

 << File: RE want a free HCI library for Oswego.txt >> That's great.  I
picked up some boxes today.
Don't worry about the shipping charges.
Book rate is pretty cheap.

I checked the Penfield library holdings,
and it seemed especially weak in HCI
(just TOCHI), so I thikn Oswego might
be needy as well as worthy.

Should I use the address below?

On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, Gary Klatsky wrote:

> Gary
>
> That would be great. I suspect most of that material would make a great
> addition to our library.  I will find some way to reimburse you for the
> shipping costs.
>
> Thanks very much for considering us.
>
> Gary
>
> Gary J. Klatsky, Ph. D.
>
> Department of Psychology		klatsky@oswego.edu
> Oswego State University (SUNY)            http://www.oswego.edu/~klatsky
> 7060 State Hwy 104W			Voice: (315) 312-3474
> Oswego, NY 13126			Fax:   (315) 312-6330
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: 	Gary PERLMAN [mailto:perlman@turing.acm.org]
> Sent:	Wednesday, April 09, 2003 4:42 PM
> To:	Gary Klatsky
> Subject:	want a free HCI library for Oswego?
>
> Hi Gary,
>
> Wayne and I are working on our report.
> With Wayne in Germany, it's a little awkward.
>
> On a completely separate topic, as I am moving,
> I am cleaning our lots of stuff I now access online
> or just don't access at all.  I was wondering if the Oswego
> HCI program would like a pile of journals, conference proceedings,
> and some books.  I think I have complete coverage for
> several journals up to a few years ago, starting around 1990.
>
> If you would like, I'm guessing here, 10-20 boxes of paper
> to show up, let me know and I'll send them off book rate.
> You could try to get the library to take it, or you could
> use the volume to begin squatting on some usability lab space with it.
>
> Let me know.
>
> Gary
>
>


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From: "Gary Klatsky" <klatsky@oswego.edu>
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Subject: RE: want a free HCI library for Oswego?
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Gary

That would be great. I suspect most of that material would make a great
addition to our library.  I will find some way to reimburse you for the
shipping costs.

Thanks very much for considering us.

Gary

Gary J. Klatsky, Ph. D.

Department of Psychology		klatsky@oswego.edu
Oswego State University (SUNY)            http://www.oswego.edu/~klatsky
7060 State Hwy 104W			Voice: (315) 312-3474
Oswego, NY 13126			Fax:   (315) 312-6330

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Gary PERLMAN [mailto:perlman@turing.acm.org]
Sent:	Wednesday, April 09, 2003 4:42 PM
To:	Gary Klatsky
Subject:	want a free HCI library for Oswego?

Hi Gary,

Wayne and I are working on our report.
With Wayne in Germany, it's a little awkward.

On a completely separate topic, as I am moving,
I am cleaning our lots of stuff I now access online
or just don't access at all.  I was wondering if the Oswego
HCI program would like a pile of journals, conference proceedings,
and some books.  I think I have complete coverage for
several journals up to a few years ago, starting around 1990.

If you would like, I'm guessing here, 10-20 boxes of paper
to show up, let me know and I'll send them off book rate.
You could try to get the library to take it, or you could
use the volume to begin squatting on some usability lab space with it.

Let me know.

Gary


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Hi Gary

I just got back from a vacation in the Adirondacks. Thanks again for your
donation. It will be a tremendous asset to our fledgling program

Gary J. Klatsky, Ph. D.

Department of Psychology		klatsky@oswego.edu
Oswego State University (SUNY)		http://www.oswego.edu/~klatsky
7060 State Hwy 104W			Voice: (315) 312-3474
Oswego, NY 13126			 Fax:   (315) 312-6330

All of us who are concerned for peace and triumph of reason and
justice must be keenly aware how small an influence reason and
honest good will exert upon events in the political field.
                            Albert Einstein

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Gary PERLMAN [mailto:perlman@turing.acm.org]
Sent:	Monday, July 14, 2003 12:05 PM
To:	Deborah Curry
Cc:	Gary Klatsky
Subject:	Re: FW: HCI materials

And they're off.  On Friday I sent 7 small boxes (i.e., 40-50 lbs)
and on Saturday I sent 7 larger boxes (i.e., 50-70 lbs).

My dream of providing lists of what I sent did not come true.
I sent no duplicate journals, but I think I sent at least one
duplicate book because it would be good reserve material
(Beacker Grudin Buxton Greenberg "Readings in HCI").
Some books were very focused on human factors and some on
computer technology, but all were relevant to an HCI program.

After taking the second shipment, the postal clerk put up a
"next window please" sign and walked away muttering about
her back, so please watch your back on these!

Gary Perlman

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Gary PERLMAN wrote:

> Finally, I am starting to send the boxes.  There are 14 in all:
> 7 large and 7 small.  They will probably be sent in two batches.
> They include about two boxes of journals, 6 boxes of proceedings,
> which are important in HCI, and 6 boxes of books.  I did not include
> any journals to which you already subscribe (e.g., ACM Trans. on
> Computer-Human Interaction), but I can send you those if you want
> duplicates.
>
> I will try to send half the boxes today and half tomorrow,
> but they might get sent in 3 lots, depending on my back.
>
> Gary Perlman
>
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Deborah Curry wrote:
>
> > Gary P,
> >  Thanks for your message.  I was out of the office for a few days so I
> > just received it this morning.
> >  It really doesn't matter what you send when.  I'll leave it up to you
to
> > decide.
> >  If you have a list already created, you can certainly send it.
> >  We'll probably begin to work on the collection this summer but I really
> > can't tell you how long it will take until I see what you have.  We
don't
> > normally receive duplicate titles but I'll leave that up to Gary K.
> >  Would you like a name plate inserted in the monographs noting your
gift?
> >
> > Gary K, would you like to look this collection when received?  Just let
> > me know and I'll give you a shout when it arrives.
> >
> > 			deborah...
> >
> > On Sun, 20 Apr 2003, Gary PERLMAN wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Deborah,
> > >
> > > I am preparing a shipment of HCI journals, books, and conference
> > > proceedings for Oswego.  I'm guessing that I'll be sending
> > > about 10 boxes, each 1.5 cubic feet.  I'll have things organized
> > > pretty well and can include OCLC numbers for all the items
> > > (I work at OCLC on FirstSearch, so I'm hoping like to see
> > > Penfield's holdings in human-computer interaction jump.)
> > >
> > > Right now, the journals are ready to go.  Would you like
> > > to receive everything at once or journals one week, books
> > > the next, and then conference proceedings?  I can e-mail a
> > > list of titles, authors, ISBN/ISSN, and OCLC number,
> > > if that would be helpful to you.
> > >
> > > I am very excited to find a good home for this material.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Gary Perlman, Director, HCI Bibliography Project
> > > PO Box 20187, Columbus, OH 43220 USA
> > > mailto:director@hcibib.org  http://hcibib.org/
> > >
> > > On Fri, 11 Apr 2003, Gary Klatsky wrote:
> > >
> > > > Gary
> > > >
> > > > Please send the material to
> > > > Penfield Library, Acquisitions Dept.
> > > > c/o Deborah Curry
> > > > State University of NY at Oswego
> > > > Oswego, NY 13126
> > > >
> > > > Once again, thanks so much for the donation
> > > >
> > > > Gary
> > > >
> > > > Gary J. Klatsky, Ph. D.
> > > >
> > > > Department of Psychology		klatsky@oswego.edu
> > > > Oswego State University (SUNY)		http://www.oswego.edu/~klatsky
> > > > 7060 State Hwy 104W			Voice: (315) 312-3474
> > > > Oswego, NY 13126			 Fax:   (315) 312-6330
> > > >
> > > > All of us who are concerned for peace and triumph of reason and
> > > > justice must be keenly aware how small an influence reason and
> > > > honest good will exert upon events in the political field.
> > > >                             Albert Einstein
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



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Hi,
  The boxes have arrived.  I think I asked you this once, Gary P., but do
you want your name in them saying donated by you?
  Gary K.  All materials have been put on trucks and are available in
Technical Services in Penfield.  Just ask at the Ref. Desk for me,
Joanne Segretto or Deb Ferlito.  I'll be on vacation on and off until
Sept. but they'll know where to take you.  Natalie Sturr also wants to
look at these.
  Thanks of thinking of us, Gary P.

			deborah...